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Lorenzo7,
It sounds to me like you have either an advanced case of worn alternator brushes (how many miles on the car and have you ever changed them?) or a failed regulator. You may also have some burned out bulbs in your dash panel, or both, with the bulbs the casualty of the voltage regulator failure. How long did the battery charge take? I am curious. Jim
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Own: 1986 Euro 190E 2.3-16 (291,000 miles), 1998 E300D TurboDiesel, 231,000 miles -purchased with 45,000, 1988 300E 5-speed 252,000 miles, 1983 240D 4-speed, purchased w/136,000, now with 222,000 miles. 2009 ML320CDI Bluetec, 89,000 miles Owned: 1971 220D (250,000 miles plus, sold to father-in-law), 1975 240D (245,000 miles - died of body rot), 1991 350SD (176,560 miles, weakest Benz I have owned), 1999 C230 Sport (45,400 miles), 1982 240D (321,000 miles, put to sleep) |
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The battery charging was done at an auto parts store. It took about 1hr and their machine showed it to be a 'good' battery holding a full charge.
I checked it myself after that (positive and negative disconnected) and it had 12.04volts and 93mA (this is what the manual shows for proper function). I live in Houston, it is plenty warm right now- mid 70's F The alternator was replaced 5 years-30,000miles ago. I re-connected the battery, disconnected the alternator, and had no loss of charge on the battery (over a 1-1/2hr period). I re-connected the alternator, and as we have been conversing (about an hour), the battery has gone down to 11.74volts. I had also posted this on the tech forum and Steve has just responded with a way to test the bulb and rule that out (see the tech forum, same title- charge indicator light). If I rule out the bulbs I think everyone is in agreement that it is the regulator and brushes. Thanks again. |
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Anyway, we need more data. I would jump to removing the voltage regulator and inspecting it. Two screws and an electrical plug with a restraining clip. Out it comes and check the brushes. If they are worn to nubs, nice and even, you get a new one for under $50 and put it in and all is fine. If one brush is worn more than the other, it is new alternator time. This is an indication of an imbalance that is either electical or mechanical, and either is is rebuild. FastLane has them, quality rebuilds from Bosch. Like with starters, mechanical rebuilds are not sufficient and unfortunately that is about all the typical rebuild effort consists of, and they don't work right. They need to be rewound and electrically rebuilt as well. Bad diodes in the rectifier section are a leading cause of rapid failures of voltage regulators, including the odd length brushes. As are mechanical problems with bearings. Anyway, we need data. Jim
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Own: 1986 Euro 190E 2.3-16 (291,000 miles), 1998 E300D TurboDiesel, 231,000 miles -purchased with 45,000, 1988 300E 5-speed 252,000 miles, 1983 240D 4-speed, purchased w/136,000, now with 222,000 miles. 2009 ML320CDI Bluetec, 89,000 miles Owned: 1971 220D (250,000 miles plus, sold to father-in-law), 1975 240D (245,000 miles - died of body rot), 1991 350SD (176,560 miles, weakest Benz I have owned), 1999 C230 Sport (45,400 miles), 1982 240D (321,000 miles, put to sleep) |
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continuing saga?
Way back in this thread you stated that you were getting 80+ ma across the battery even with it totally disconnected. Hope was just some slip in terminology. But go back and check statements to see if any confusion occured at that point. (maybe i'am confused, would not be first time)Needless to say if you had tried to read current across battery you would have a blown fuse or worse in your meter so i know you did not do that. A lot of guys install aftermarket radios,cd units etc. and only use the inline fuse supplied with them and tie them to some constant hot buss point. Electronics go off with your key? If not
have seen them draw current even when turned off. Developed some kind of internal defect..? You may have been living with a slight additional draw for a long time. I would try to get alternator up and running and then double check for draw later.As the person guiding you has stated by measuring across battery running and not running you will confirm if alternator is functional. Just a thought as i really hate the action grinding to a halt. |
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