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Old 12-11-2004, 05:01 AM
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Jeep Liberty diesel

Has anyone seen this vehicle yet? I thought it was to have been out by now. Future possibilities will surely include the Dakota pickup.

"Jeep Liberty will offer the first diesel in the U.S. mid-size sport-utility vehicle segment, adding torque, power, and range. The 2.8 liter common-rail turbodiesel engine is rated at an estimated 160 horsepower (120 kW) at 3800 rpm with an enormous 295 lb.-ft. (400 N.m) at 1800 rpm, providing class-leading torque and towing capability. Diesel engines offer increased torque, towing, and range, while improving fuel economy an average of 25 percent and reducing CO2 emissions by an average of 20 percent."

"The diesel engine will be available on both Sport and Limited models with a Chrysler heavy-duty 545RFE five-speed automatic only. This engine, a Detroit Diesel VM model, has been well received in Jeeps sold in Europe for some time." (from the Jeep Liberty site)

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Old 12-11-2004, 06:02 PM
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Just read a review in the paper last week about the Liberty.
I think the only negative thing he found on the car was diesel fumes in the cabin.
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Old 12-11-2004, 08:05 PM
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They are taking orders I believe. Also they have a diesel truck/TJ that will be at the Jan. 05 auto show. Same engine.





Story here http://rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/04november/jeep_gladiator.asp

Story on the Diesel Lib. here w/ MSRP
http://rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/04november/jeep_kjcrd_pricing.asp
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:08 AM
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That's a pretty cool-looking prototype...

But I'd rather they'd put that engine in the Dakota like the original poster said.

Actually, what I'd REALLY like to see is for Toyota to sell diesel pickups here again! Gimme a 4WD crew-cab Tacoma and I could die happy.
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:49 AM
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Toyota diesel pickup

I have to agree on the diesel Toyota. Had an '83 that I bought new and kept for 10 years. Got around 35 mpg and was absolutely bulletproof. Wish I still had it.
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Old 12-12-2004, 08:57 AM
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Small diesel P/U 's rule the rest of the world. Nearly every P/U and 1/2 the SUX's in Panama are diesel. When I move back down there I'm taking the three 617's with me......
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Old 12-15-2004, 10:42 PM
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I would love to have the MB Diesel Engine in the Dodge Ram. That is a nice truck by Jeep.
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:19 AM
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Dodge/Cummins

I would love to have the MB Diesel Engine in the Dodge Ram.

That would be a good combination but probably a Detroit Diesel would be more likely. The only problem is there ain't nothin' wrong w/ the Cummins motor. Bought my '96 new and have had zero problems. Automatics...maybe but not my 5 speed. Joe
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:36 AM
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probably a Detroit Diesel would be more likely
I doubt it, since Detroit is owned by GM. But, like you said, why bother? Cummins makes the best diesels around. Just keep changing the oil and the rest of the truck will be ready for the pick-n-pull long before the engine even needs a new top end.
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:55 AM
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Detroit ownership

Detroit was sold to Penske group by GM several years ago which in turn sold it to Daimler-Chrysler a while back. At least a year ago I would say. Why do you think that Detroit is now the number one engine in Freightliner trucks also owned by D-C?
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Old 12-20-2004, 03:20 AM
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Detroit was sold to Penske group by GM several years ago which in turn sold it to Daimler-Chrysler a while back. At least a year ago I would say. Why do you think that Detroit is now the number one engine in Freightliner trucks also owned by D-C?
Interesting, I didn't know that. I wonder if this means that D-C will at some point stop putting the Cummins engine in Dodge trucks, since Cummins is now their direct competitor?
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Old 12-20-2004, 03:49 AM
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Replacing the Cummins?

I don't see that happening. The Cummins engine and the new face the Ram got in '94 are major factors in the Dodge truck revival. My unofficial poll in checking oncoming traffic sure tells me there are a lot more Dodges than there used to be. As for Detroit that series 60 is one damn fine engine. I understand the best and brightest from Cat and Cummins were hired away to design it. Joe

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