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Old 04-06-2005, 10:11 PM
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At approximately 11:20pm CDT, April 6, 2004 Marlene the wonder wagon was once again coaxed into life and moved under her own power; her OM617.952 now connected to the drivetrain via friction clutch and not a fluid coupling.
16,242 miles later, I wouldn't go back to an auto on a bet and, she's on the threshold of another conversion...to a five speed! Stay tuned.

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Old 04-06-2005, 10:51 PM
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16,242 miles later, I wouldn't go back to an auto on a bet and, she's on the threshold of another conversion...to a five speed! Stay tuned.

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Old 04-06-2005, 11:54 PM
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16,242 miles later, I wouldn't go back to an auto on a bet and, she's on the threshold of another conversion...to a five speed! Stay tuned.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:15 AM
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16,242 miles later, I wouldn't go back to an auto on a bet and, she's on the threshold of another conversion...to a five speed! Stay tuned.
Too bad your old 4 sp. is twitchy, as a normally aspirated wagon just screams for a standard. Keep us posted on the conversion to the 5, and photo-document for sure.
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Old 04-09-2005, 07:57 AM
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Oh, this is too weird. A full year without trouble and twice now in the last couple of days my clutch has failed to completely disengage when stopping for a traffic light...hmmm. One pump of the pedal fixes it but what a PITA if it needs a slave cylinder after only one year!!!!...so much for quality replacement parts.
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:39 PM
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I am tuned! i want to hear about the 5-speed. this is a project i plan to tackle in the near future and following you through it would be great. I am mostly wondering what NEW parts i need to have on hand. Also, my trans will be coming from 280e, is it possible that i can use these driveshafts without any shortening? It seems om617 and m110 might sit at same depth in the bay.
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:31 PM
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I am tuned! i want to hear about the 5-speed. this is a project i plan to tackle in the near future and following you through it would be great. I am mostly wondering what NEW parts i need to have on hand. Also, my trans will be coming from 280e, is it possible that i can use these driveshafts without any shortening? It seems om617 and m110 might sit at same depth in the bay.
First of all, welcome to the forum.

You know, this thread is pretty old; the last post to it was over 1 1/2 years ago so, you need to check out this thread: Conversion to manual

Sorry but, I don't have any complete answers about your particluar driveshaft because all my manual trannies and shafts came from diesels. But, FWIW, excepting the coupe, the back end of the shafts are all the same so I guess you could measure the length of the front segments and compare them. There's about 3/4" or so of adjustment allowable in the splined section.

Make sure you match-mark the segments before disassembling them so that they can be reassembled properly and preserve the balancing. If you have to fab-up a shaft, you'll need to balance it anyway.

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I have read, re-read, and then read a couple more times the manual conversion thread. Thank you for the painstaking details. I thought that this thread must have come after that one as you are refering to a car you did a swap on and then drove 16k. Please fill me in on the story here. What is your highest mileage manual conversion and have you done a 5 speed?
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:21 PM
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I have read, re-read, and then read a couple more times the manual conversion thread. Thank you for the painstaking details. I thought that this thread must have come after that one as you are refering to a car you did a swap on and then drove 16k. Please fill me in on the story here. What is your highest mileage manual conversion and have you done a 5 speed?
The car referred to in this thread (my wagon) is the only car on which I've done the conversion. This thread was to commemorate and anniversary of competeing the swap.

Haven't done the 5-speed yet; in addition to other things, I got tied up with the resuscitation of a $650 SDL and promised myself not to have more than one money pit project at a time. The SDL is finished...well, almost (we're driving it daily), so I can start the 5-speed soon.

With a manual already in the car, the 5-speed is fundamentally a tranny swap out. I''ll have to install the shifter from the 5-speed donor car and, possibly fab a new rear cross member, R-5th speed shift rod and driveshaft. There is a (very) remote possibility that the length of the 617 engine with a 5-speed bolted on will be the same length as a 617 with an automatic. If that's the case, I'll use old driveshaft and rear support from the automatic. If not, it will be fab time.
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:25 PM
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I have read, re-read, and then read a couple more times the manual conversion thread. Thank you for the painstaking details. I thought that this thread must have come after that one as you are refering to a car you did a swap on and then drove 16k. Please fill me in on the story here. What is your highest mileage manual conversion and have you done a 5 speed?

Notice the posting dates for a more complete timeline to the story. It has been fun to follow.
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:44 PM
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getting a driveshaft cut & welded is not too much money. make sure to take it to a pro.

i just replaced the 2 piece in my step van. 7 feet of tube. 4 welds. new center yolk. 3 u-joints. $400.
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:35 AM
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getting a driveshaft cut & welded is not too much money. make sure to take it to a pro.

i just replaced the 2 piece in my step van. 7 feet of tube. 4 welds. new center yolk. 3 u-joints. $400.

That's about what it cost me to have my driveshaft shortened, rebalanced and refurbished too.
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That's about what it cost me to have my driveshaft shortened, rebalanced and refurbished too.
Thats $$$. I got mine from TomJ for $50.
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Old 10-19-2006, 09:10 PM
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i thought i heard a question about the relative placement of the rear of the 617 and the rear of the 280. i think they are the same position so if you have a 280 five speed ds i think it should work with the 617 too.

you need to be cautious about the balance of the flywheel. mark your fw onthe 617 before removal then check it for balance. if it is neutrally balanced that is good. then you just have to be sure the fw you put on is neutral too.

if it is not neutral you need to balance the new fw to match it. this proceedure is described precisely in the fsm. check skinnerbox.

a five with the 617 will make a very sweet combo. actually a five with any of the motors is sweet.

good luck

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