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The Scoop - Janet's 1979 240D
For those of you who have and provided a lot of support and advice concerning Janet's red 1979 240D 4 Speed, the patient has a final diagnosis.
This was all done but not before joining AAA, transferring the title, going to the tow yard, coordinating a tow, but finding out that a DOT release was needed. 2 days later on my lunch break, I got the vehicle release, went to the tow yard paid the exorbitant impound fees, searched for the car on a golf cart in a old railroad yard and had it towed leaking diesel all the way to Santa Monica from Downtown LA. Here's what was discovered in chronological order by my mechanic Tony at Europa Motors in Santa Monica who volunteered his spare time in his own shop to do all of this for FREE #1 and #2 cylinders were found to have extremely tight valves - (valves were adjusted and a compression test was done) - no start Very low compression was found with cylinders with not much more than 200 psi in each cylinder. The fuel rack was found stuck in the OFF position - no start #1 was tested with compressed air causing no movement in the piston and so there appeared to be a mystery leak somewhere in the block Head was removed and observed that the head was not torqued down properly and was seemingly not sealed properly, the head gasket however was in good shape. With the head off, the #1 intake valve was pulled and all were severely "pitted" and had presumed that the valve seats were damaged and upon closer inspection the valves were completely covered in carbon deposits, the stem seals were relatively new, and apparently weren't leaking. This leads one to believe that there was so much blowby from oil consumption that it was leaving enormous deposits of carbon on the valves (this is confusing because the engine was supposedly running perfectly before it was non-op) Checking the bottom end, the pistons have a lot of play and are very loose and the rings are presumably well worn which explains why there was no piston movement when the compressed air was pumped into the engine through the glow plug opening. At this point the engine IS completely worn out and would require a rebuild. Does anyone have a 240D engine lying around that is somewhere in the vicinity of Santa Monica, CA? Janet, ismelldiesel.....there you have it EDIT: Check out the ironic post number "123616" ------------------------------------------------- Here are the two previous threads to the story 2nd Thread Concerning Selling http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=121330 1st Thread by Janet http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=113163
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Seldom get those...
Now, that is a good follow up / final chapter post...
Thanks.... Even included links to the other pertinent threads !!! However, it does leave those threads , if someone found them looking in the archives, without the ' end of the story' ..... |
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The 13th. - Patrick
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Update
The car has been sitting in Santa Monica for nearly 2 months now and is being dusted regularly by my mechanic's son.
Finding engines has been difficult. They are all much more than I expected them to be and the cost benefit analysis says it's not worth dumping that much money for installation into a car that doesn't have that much value. ismelldiesel mentioned he might be able to get an engine from a friend although the details are hazy and I haven't been able to contact either him or Janet for weeks now. Chiwanga has been kind and is possibly sourcing an engine although that is still pending his decision to purchase the donor vehicle for parts and evaluate the condition of the engine. If the engine is good then this might be a practical consideration. A OM617 conversion might be feasible if someone would be willing to do the job at a reasonable price since I don't have the resources or expertise to do so. Anyone in CA interested in such a job? Other than that, it leaves me the option to sell it to someone who wants a nice 240d 4 speed manual in CA. No rust! Link to ad In "Cars for Sale" Any offers? Suggestions? |
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Update!
After digging for months now, I just got a hold of a nice 82 240D motor with the flywheel, clutch, AC compressor, CC, alternator all delivered to Santa Monica so it will be slowly installed this week. I haven't seen it yet but it's supposed to be clean throughout with no or at least very little blowby.
Unfortunately the GP relay needs to be changed because the car is wired for loop type glow plugs and the motor has pin type plugs. I hope to have it running by Friday or Saturday! |
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Damn if that was close at all I would grab it....I have a good OM617 I could drop into it...but with $3.00 a gallon diesel I don't even want to think about what that would cost to ship across the USA...even if the car was free.
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At 29mpg? it could be driven cross country for $300 bucks in fuel....or with WVO... |
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How was the motor swap? I'm looking at maybe having the same job ahead. How much would I have to pay to have an independant swap the motor, if I decide not to do it? I haven't tested the compression yet, but... worst case...
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Whoa! Wasn't expecting this thread to reappear.
The car sat 7 months until my mechanic haggled with a source for a good running 240D motor. They are a premium here in CA. $1000 for a OK motor at least here in SoCal. We got a break on the motor after searching for the split year 79 motor since there was a problem finding the R4 compressor motor with the loop glow plugs. So after months of deliberation and my mechanic's son dusting the car at the shop for 7 months we decided to rig the car for a nice clean 82' motor. We had to tranplant the air filter, manifold, and exhaust manifold to accomodate the AC line. We also had to switch the glow plug relay to the fast glow which by comparison with my W115 it is worlds faster! Now it runs great! 505 miles on one tank of fuel and that wasn't all highway miles. Much of it was stop and go on the 10 freeway, and streets. I have run 10 gallons of B99.9 through the motor and wow is it quiet! A valve ajustment was just done and it's even smoother. I can't believe it's a 240 compared to the W115. I would reccomend making sure that the engine is good before you drop it in since you'll need new parts here and there. I had new motor mounts in, had to replace the clutch release plate which had a hole in it! The labor isn't too bad dropping the engine in but it's the little things here and there that take time. How much is your mechanic asking to install the engine? |
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Well I don't really have a mechanic. I'm it. I'm still hoping I don't need a new motor, but thanks a ton for the birds eye of the process. It occurs to me that this car is way more than nice enough to afford a new engine, should it need one. I won't be selling this creampuff for $1000, that's for sure. Still trying to get it to kick over. Gonna re-check the glow system today. Thanks again!
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