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Old 06-08-2005, 04:20 PM
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Glow Indicator not lighting

The glow indicator light in the dash of my '77 300D is not lighting, however the car also does not start. I changed all 5 plugs, the 50amp in-line fuse and the ground wire. Indicator still does not work and the car will not start. My next step is to check the relay, however I do not have an electrical manual yet. I know it's in the dash somewhere, can anybody help me out?

Second thing is that the plugs are all getting power. I'm under the assumption that if the relay is bad, power wouldn't flow to the plugs. Please advise.

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Old 06-09-2005, 01:58 AM
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On the later cars the GP relay is in the engine compartment on the driver's side wheel well and probably the same or close with your car. If it's working you should be able to hear a "click" when you turn the key to the glow position. If you are getting full power to the glow plugs when you leave the drivers door open at night you should see the interior light dim when you glow. If no "click" or no noticable light diming then it's probably a relay or low voltage problem. Also, are you sure you are getting fuel? If you have an air bubble in the fuel line you can crank all you want and it won't necessarily start. Lastly, if you have the early loop type glow plug setup ALL the plugs need to work to get proper glow on even a few cylinders. Do a search here and you'll find lots more info on troubleshooting the loop type system.
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:39 AM
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ditto

ditto the above post ... sounds like a bad glow plug.
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Just because you replaced all the glow plugs doesn't mean that they are all okay now. They could be bad out of the box by being dropped or whatever. Take an ohm meter to each glow plug terminal at the relay and make sure they all read 0.6 ohms. If any are infinite, you've got a bad one.

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Old 06-09-2005, 12:35 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. I have a couple more questions...

Is it possible to start the car without the plugs working.....it's about 85F today. Probably depends on how much compression the engine has.....if the valves are okay, how long should I crank before the engine would turn over?

I also noticed that the connector wire to one of the resistors blew off when the glow plug went bad. Could this be the problem? What function do the resistors play in engine starting?
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Thanks for the info guys. I have a couple more questions...

Is it possible to start the car without the plugs working.....it's about 85F today. Probably depends on how much compression the engine has.....if the valves are okay, how long should I crank before the engine would turn over?

I also noticed that the connector wire to one of the resistors blew off when the glow plug went bad. Could this be the problem? What function do the resistors play in engine starting?

What does this resistor look like? Mine have wavy wires running from one plug to the next. Check for voltage on the wire between first and second plug to ground. You should see about 2.5 - 3.0 volts. If you see any voltage you know the back four plugs are OK. If you see about 12 volts in this spot then number one is bad. You can continue to check each spot and the only place you should see 12 volts is on the tip of number 5 plug.

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