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Old 07-08-2005, 12:28 PM
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Does this happen to you also?

I recently adjusted the ALDA 3/4 turns on my 87 300d turbo and was really satisfied with the improvement in power, but lately I've noticed that the extra power is gone and feels like the way it was before I adjusted it. There are times when the power is there but lately is all gone so I'm wondering if maybe you have to go back and readjust after it "settles" to get the permanent adjustment. I must admit I haven't done a complete check of everything since I just finished doing the vacuum pods (will post pics of that job) maybe you guys can shine some light on this one

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Old 07-08-2005, 12:46 PM
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Have you noticed if the days it appears to be weak are the hottest days?

above 90 degrees I notice a distinct reduction in power compaired to days below 90 degrees.
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I think added horsepower is like most illicit drugs. It just keeps taking more and more to satisfy the cravings. In other words, your seat-of-the-pants dyno builds a tolerance to the new power level so you don't notice a gain after a bit.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:21 PM
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Have you noticed if the days it appears to be weak are the hottest days?

above 90 degrees I notice a distinct reduction in power compaired to days below 90 degrees.
No kidding. Then, let that air get cold and dense and see what happens.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:54 PM
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I suspected the same thing with my 87 300d, but after I did another 0 to 60, I discovered it was even faster by a 25th of a second, than months before when I had adjusted Mr. Alda! "Greed for speed"
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:56 PM
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I had been wondering the same thing. I did the one on my coupe awhile back and lately it doesnt seem to be the as quick as a 300D and 300SD i just adjusted. I adjusted it a little further the other day and noticed it's now at its limit. It smoked at a stop the day I adjusted it, but hasn't smoked at idle since.

On a certain turn from a stop on the way home from work everyday the car used to break traction. It doesn't do it anymore.
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Old 07-09-2005, 01:39 AM
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Have you noticed if the days it appears to be weak are the hottest days?

above 90 degrees I notice a distinct reduction in power compaired to days below 90 degrees.
weather doesn't seem to matter, unless of course is raining, even the suspension works better when it rains
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Old 07-09-2005, 03:51 AM
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Have you noticed if the days it appears to be weak are the hottest days?

above 90 degrees I notice a distinct reduction in power compaired to days below 90 degrees.
Ditto, my TD feels like a rocket in 50-60* after a good rain.
90-100*+ a VW beatle could pour a can of whoop@ss all over me.
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Old 07-09-2005, 09:03 AM
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funny my car seems to run a little stronger and smoother when it's hot outside
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Old 07-10-2005, 01:31 AM
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I just noticed something that might be the cause of the problem. I recently took a trip to a water park and while doing the pre-trip systems check list I noticed that the lines going to the alda from the intake were brittle and toasty so I changed them with the only thing I had which were regular vac line of a larger diameter so maybe the larger hose is not letting enough of a signal to build up inside the lines to actually have an effect on the alda. My mityvac doesn't measure positive pressure so I haven't been able to measure how much boost signal is actually getting to the alda. In any case I always though those lines were too skinny and thats why they clog up with soot, but may be MB though otherwise and made them that skinny to allow the presure to build faster, what do you guys think?
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:38 AM
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If you used a larger diameter hose, then yes, your pressure would not build up quite as quickly your added fuel injection would be lagging behind the turbo boost it is supposed to be compensating for via the alda unit. You should definitely get yourself a new original hose (it can't be too much), attach it and see if there's a difference. Altering the size of any of your vacuum (or pressure) lines that control transmission, fuel, etc, can mean trouble.
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Old 07-11-2005, 12:35 AM
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Power problems

I have had the same problem. I adjusted the alda then adjusted it back and could never get that first power surge back. If you look at threads in my name you will see my posts about it. I still haven't found the answer to this problem so I'm following this post to see if you come up with anything.
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Old 07-11-2005, 01:59 AM
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Hmm, not really, i'm always pretty happy with the engine performance of the 300DTurbo, it's pretty snappy on take off. Also, while it's in, say, 3rd gear and you make it downshift a gear it'll put your head in the back of the seat pretty nicely...especially after a long day of work when im too tired to fight it.

I am not satisfied with the brakes though, i think i have sticky rear calipers and am thinking the master cylinder is giving me a not-so-great brake pedal feel (i have replaced the brake lines and bled them of air and the old fluid) but they seem to stop the car okay, they just dont feel right though, especially compared to our 300SDL. Sorry, off topic here.
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After adjusting the alda on my 603, I notice occasionally that the power isn't what it should be, usually when the engine is fully warmed up. I haven't really looked into it, but am wondering if the waste gate is the culprit? I am not too sure how to test that but will search here.

When cold the engine has plenty of power.

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