I test drove the Jeep Liberty Diesel tonight, very impressive on the power this 2.8 Liter 4 cy has.....mama wants a SUV

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I understand their engines are not manufactured by Mercedes. Not sure of their repair record. A diesel SUV is appealling though.

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Who makes the diesel for the jeep liberty? I've heard they're fine, but i'd guess the jury is still out since it's to early to tell. I still think Ford would benefit from putting a diesel in the new F-150.

i thought the diesel was a mercedes.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Greetings, my understanding is that Ford Argentina is the source of the diesel engine. My father in law has a Ford Ranger four door diesel in El Salvador with the same engine, and it pulls very nicely. His is a five speed, which I wish Ford could import to California. That would sell out for sure.

I read in AutoWeek I believe that the engine in made in Italy by a MB subsidiary.

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The engines are made by VM Motori in Italy. VM was acquired by Detroit Diesel in the 1995 which is now 49% owned by DC.

Tom

What's been the general feed back on these motors? I'm guessing to early to tell.

Just hope they are more reliable than the rest of the Italian offerings...

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http://www.vm-motori.it/en/01/01/index.jsp


I have read some posts at the Jeep forum, but no major problems with this diesel so far. It ran smooth and was quiet for a diesel engine. It will fly on the highway, acceleration was better than my 300D. Most people are getting
25 MPG

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2006 Mazda Tribute
1983 Black 300 D (donated to charity)
1993 Teal 300 D (160K) Sold
"I love the smell of burnt diesel fuel in the morning, it smells like ....VICTORY"

Semper Fidelis
USMC 1973-1976

This makes me think of Isuzu....

Remember their Little P'up Diesel? One tough little diesel truck that they stopped offering in diesel around the late 1980's. I work with a guy that drives his to work everyday and nary a problem. Check out the prices they fetch too on eBay.

Isuzu is barely hanging on in the US market. Toyota sells more cars in a week than Isuzu sells in a year here. Isuzu would serve itself well to offer such a little truck again with their diesel. I think it would sell like hotcakes and they would not zero competition in the small truck market with a diesel.

The FIRST question that I would ask about the engine is; "Does it have a timing belt or a timing chain?"

Good luck,

i bet you will find that the engine is a mercedes engine made to mercedes specs and in the family of the 320cdi with one less cylinder.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

An inline 2.8 liter 4 cylinder Diesel???

That thing must vibrate/shake like a wet dog - I sure hope they have balance shafts or some other provisions for vibration damping.

SOme info...

http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/liberty-2005.html

Incidently it says it uses a timing belt.

ENGINE: 2.8-LITER, TURBO DIESEL 16 VALVE DOHC, DI-CRMade by VM Motori (a division of Detroit Diesel)

Availability Optional – Limited Edition and Sport
Type and Description Four-cylinder, inline, liquid-cooled
Displacement 171 cu. in. (2768 cu. cm)
Bore x Stroke 3.70 x 3.94 (94 x 100)
Valve System Belt drive, DOHC, 16 valve
Fuel Injection Direct injection, common rail 23,000 PSI (1600 bar)
Construction Cast-iron block, aluminum cylinder head
Compression Ratio 17.5:1
Power (SAE net) 160 hp (120 kW) @ 3800 rpm
Torque (SAE net) 295 lb.-ft. (400 N•m) @ 1800 rpm
Max. Engine Speed 4300 RPM, electronically governed
Fuel Requirement #2-diesel
Oil Capacity 6.3 qt. (6.0-Liter)
Coolant Capacity 13.2 qt. (12.5-Liter)
Emission Controls EGR, catalytic converters
Max. Gross Trailer Weight (lbs.) Automatic with trailer tow package 5000 lbs. (2250 kg)
Estimated EPA Fuel Economy mpg (City/Hwy) Automatic 21/27

Its not a Benz motor.....

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Proud owner of ....
1971 280SE W108
1979 300SD W116
1983 300D W123
1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper
1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel
1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified)
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Section 609 MVAC Certified
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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche