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Old 08-02-2005, 02:43 PM
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battery expert wanted

The Problem: My battery loses charge after sitting for a few days. When starting the car, the starter turns over slow at first but picks up speed & ultimately starts after 5-10 seconds of starting. It's as if the battery is "finding power" (like the little choo choo that could). Thought I had a dragging starter, but everything works fine after I put the battery on a charger overnight.

Test I've performed:

1. Alternator: 13.5 volts
2. Battery test: put a load tester on it & it handles the load.
3. Battery draining while car is off: I checked draw on the battery while the car is completely off & it only shows 00.2 millivolts (not sure I performed this test properly - I removed negative cable & placed volt meter on postive post & negative ground cable (not post).

Strange symptom: There is a crack in the plastic housing around the positive post on my sealed battery. I caused this a few months back while seating (hammering) positive cable on post. Hammered way too hard .

My question: Is it the crack in the battery housing that is causing the battery to slowly lose power or did I perform the millivolt test improperly & there actually is a drain on the battery? I hate to go out & buy a new battery only to have it slowly die over time again.

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Old 08-02-2005, 04:11 PM
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I have no idea whether the crack has anything to do with the battery being toast, but it is for sure that the battery is toast if it won't hold a charge and there is no excessive drain.

Battery time.

Good luck,
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Old 08-02-2005, 04:37 PM
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if the battery is losing juice,,,

chances are it has a short in between the cells.

Good luck.

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Old 08-02-2005, 05:37 PM
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Larry - did I perform the battery drain test properly? I seem to remember an earlier post of yours on how to test but no reference on whether to remove the positive cable or the negative cable. Does it matter?
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:48 PM
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Actually I think you want to do the static current draw using the ammeter function of the meter.

Set your meter to 10A first, then go to a lower setting if you're below 1.

I never did this myself, but I think you don't want to see over 50 ma or 0.05A... 20 ma 0.02 A is more in the range of normal...

The people who recommended using the voltage function of the meter use a resistor in series with the battery lead, then use the voltmeter reading and Ohm's law to calculate a current draw through the resistor. I guess this method protects the meter from damage if you're drawing a lot of current.

Hope this helps, Bob
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Old 08-02-2005, 06:40 PM
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The easist way to check for a battery drain is disconnect the negative battery cable in the evening. the next morning reconnect the battery. If the car starts normally, then there is probably a drain in the car. If rhe car doesn't start or starts slowly, then the battery is at fault.
Try it and let us know what happens.
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:27 PM
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When doing a current draw test it does not matter whether you remove the positive or negative cable as long as you put your ammeter with proper polarity in series with the circuit. You are using the AMMETER function NOT the voltage function.

I did not read your original post carefully enough. You need to do this test correctly using the ammeter mode.

Have a great day,
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Old 08-02-2005, 09:10 PM
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yeah

if there is a crack in the case good chance the interior straps are damaged.

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Old 08-02-2005, 10:53 PM
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I guess my DVM looks more like an analog VM :D

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Old 08-03-2005, 01:29 AM
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One of the old tricks to "wake up" a battery is to turn on the headlights for 5-10sec. I don't know why, but it works, especially in the winter. Using the glowplugs does the same thing.

If your battery isn't sealed (has removable caps), then check water level - plates just covered with distilled water, pull the cables, trickle charge overnight, check the cells with an el-cheapo hygrometer, let it sit a day, then check it again. That will tell you if the battery's holding a charge. Some sick batterys will recover - I had a 6volt tractor battery that recovered after alternating trickle charge for a day and sitting for a day. Took a week but it recovered.

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