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engine dampers 82 300td
i am changing my motor mounts and noticed there is only one damper is this right?and how much of a differance do they make if replaced?thanks..lance
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None whatsoever - engine dampeners are gay. MB started puttin em in their diesels to meet picayune needs of a few snivelling sissies who started cryin like babies because the diesel shook when they shut it down. Your car will run fine with no engine dampener at all.
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on a 300
there should be two dampers. i have always used them. i figured if they didnt do something mb wouldnt put them in.
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My 82 300TD has 2, one on each side. So replace them if they are worn and it will dampen some of the vibration. You should have 2 engine mount assemblies that include the shock mount. If your diesel does not have 2 dampers your production model (vin #) may have been before the 2 shocks were installed When the cutoff for 1 or 2 shocks was done, I don't know. So if you dont' have the mount for it, your production model may be prior to the change. Dave
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Seems like they would provide some protection to the mounts....Can't really comment on their sexual orientation as I'm not sure its a factor...Although come to think of it there are two male ends on each engine shock on my sedan????
If I'm reading you wrong and you're saying they're gay as in happy......How is the engine to be happy without the gay dampers
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[QUOTE=t i figured if they didnt do something mb wouldnt put them in.
tom w[/QUOTE] Wanna bet?? I've been pitchin and pulling all kinds of over-engineered worthless crap that MB was dumb enough to install: 1) Plastic trunk liner - stupid idea because it traps water underneath 2) Hood pad - scraped off with putty knife cause i like diesel engine sound 3) Plastic radiator - replaced with superior mitsubishi product that runs cooler 4) Radiator fan shroud - gets in the way, i dont need it 5) Radiator electric fan - hotwired to toggle switch 6) Cruise control - JCWhitney sells a better one for about $200 7) Automatic antenna - discarded 8) Central locking system - gutted and sold on ebay 9) Fiddly bits - instrument light switch/bypassed; seatbelt sensor/disabled Y'all gotta understand plenty of bogus items gets heaped into these cars and engine dampeners are about as useful as tits on a hog. |
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Beastiality isn't my bag so I can't speak to hogs and such but I believe the engine shocks would reduce wear on the engine mounts. Particularly in a condition where the mount is being stretched (as opposed to being compressed. The shock could aid in acting as sort of a limiter.
If my cruise worked just fine why would I want to pay for a "better" one? Same with the radiator....I curently have no hood pad but hope to add one as I believe the trubo on my car could present enoug heat to damage the paint. I'm not stuck on the stock stuff but hope to rehab my car in a manner that cheap and functional.
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I drive an S class and want it to feel like one. Dampeners make a difference as do fresh engine mounts and a good hood pad. You should not be able to feel the engine in your seat while it is running.
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dieseldog240
you have points that are true, for you. the parts mentioned were put in for a reason such as trunk liners prevent denting your bodywork from the inside, but hey, if you dont care about that, it will make the car lighter and acclerate faster... you might not be able to measure the difference but oh well. different strokes...
cheers! tom w
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The Mercedes engineers installed pretty soft engine mounts in an effort to decrease the engine vibrations and noise transmitted to the passenger compartment... these engines are also tall compared to V-8's so the torque arm acting on the mounts is amplified. Early 240's did not have the engine shock... but later ones did...and there are instructions in the 616 manual for retrofitting them to some earlier cars ( only with either manual or auto trans..don't remember off hand which )...
The radiator fan shroud is not a bogus item... although on all cars it should be contructed in a fashion easier to remove for mechanicing access.... Air is a liquid... and it flows along the path of least resistance... the fan needs to pull the air through the radiator fins... and taking it off allows air to be more easily drawn from under the car than through the radiator... and that gets even more pronounced as any bent fins or dirt accumulate on the condensor or radiator... |
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One thing that I think should not be on our cars is the glow plug timer circuit... a simple push and hold down button on the dash next to the key switch... with a light which showed if the loop was being completed while the button was engaged would be plenty... and eliminate a lot of things which can and do go wrong in 20 plus year old cars....
Timing circuits always involve resisters which can fry....and capacitors which can leak... and either can change their values due to age... |
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i wonder if the manual systems can overcook the faster modern glows and ruin them?
tom w
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Actually you have a ' manual ' system anyway... if you leave your key in the glow position ( and the glow plugs are working ) then they will continue to heat for approximately 45 seconds after the glow plug dash light goes off...
A simple on off switch just cuts out some of the things which have the capability of failing just when you need them to work... |
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