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Old 09-05-2005, 12:42 AM
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Which engine heater is best? Block or coolant

Which engine heater for a w123 do you all think is best or sufficient? The conductant one screwed into the block or the int-line hose one for the coolant, I believe?

Is it hard to put one in the block? My car lived in SoCal and never had one.
Lowest temp here about 0F. I haven;t needed one before, but if I can make starts as easy as possible I would do a heater.

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Old 09-05-2005, 07:33 AM
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i prefer the block heater

it is a pita to install. i have never done it personally but my indie has done a couple for me. one they said they had to use a 5' breaker to unscrew the freeze plug.

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Old 09-05-2005, 09:49 AM
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It'll be a ***** to install a block heater after all these years. I installed a lower radiator hose heater last winter and it worked well. Easy install.
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The ideal is the block

heater, but in your climate, as much as you would use it, the hose heater would be more than adequate and, as indicated previously, much easier to install.

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Old 09-05-2005, 10:39 AM
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I had a heater on the radiator hose and it barely kept the engine at starting temp. I'd have to crank it for like five years before it would start, and even then it would stall unless I kept my foot on the go pedal.

So I had the garage in town install a block heater. Now it fires right up and idles smoother than when I start it during summer temps.
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Old 09-05-2005, 10:51 AM
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btw

you dont have to run the block heaters all night. if you are up a couple hours before starting you can plug it in then and it will work fine. perhaps even just one hour early, too.


it is surprising how much electricity they use.

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Amen, Tom

Block heaters put the heat where it is needed, therefore, even at -30 f, plugging in two hours prior to startup is usually adequate. Once temps drop to about +20 f or lower, I plug mine in about an hour before startup; starts as though it is summer.

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Old 09-05-2005, 07:11 PM
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price?

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Block heaters put the heat where it is needed, therefore, even at -30 f, plugging in two hours prior to startup is usually adequate. Once temps drop to about +20 f or lower, I plug mine in about an hour before startup; starts as though it is summer.

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Anyone know how much it would cost to instal a block heater? By a shop?
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Old 09-05-2005, 07:41 PM
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Anyone know how much it would cost to instal a block heater? By a shop?
Depends on the shop but i'd say around $50 would be fair
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Old 09-05-2005, 07:55 PM
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id say

50 to 100. it is pretty buried under the manifolds. hard to get at and pretty much must be done from underneath.

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Old 09-05-2005, 08:10 PM
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My lower coolant hose heater keeps the entire setup near 70C when its on for a couple hours...it works excellently. And it was very easy to install.
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50 to 100. it is pretty buried under the manifolds. hard to get at and pretty much must be done from underneath.

tom w
I would guess closer to the $100 mark PLUS the heater.

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Old 09-06-2005, 12:34 AM
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What is this "block heater" thingy I've been hearing about ?
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Old 09-06-2005, 01:00 AM
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it is

a heating element mounted on a large threaded plug (about 2.5" d.) that screws into a freeze plug hold in the center pass side of the block. with a cord that plugs into it and hangs out the front of the car like a small black tongue. when it gets really cold plug it in to make the car start like its summer.

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Old 09-06-2005, 01:15 AM
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What is this "block heater" thingy I've been hearing about ?
Something you don't need to know about in either Southern California or Hawaii.

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