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Old 10-20-2005, 11:49 AM
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hey...compared to gasolene prices $2.25 is what they SHOULD be charging for diesel......
NO NO NO diesel must cost LESS than Gasoline.

Here in central/north NJ rug is 2.39 and diesel is 2.69.

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Old 10-20-2005, 11:58 AM
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That's getting pretty cold for any vegetable oil mix. Kugel (on the biodiesel infopop forum) notices difficulty starting on 15%-20% RUG mix below 40F. I'm not sure there is anything one can do to run vegetable oil in a mix colder than that and prevent deposits from cold oil building up in the engine.
Partial heating.
When I started my VO 'experiments' I started by heating just the stock supply line in the engine compartment and ran straight VO down to any temperature warm enough to keep the fuel flowing from the tank. I think you can get a kerosine or rug blend to flow down close to freezing temperatures.
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The heater coolant line next to the oil filter gets hot quick. I cut attached barb fitting..hose to inlet fuel lines, coiled copper tubing (like a spring w/ rubber fuel lines going inside the spring), to hose and bach to heater line.
If I didn't live in NJ, I would do the above.
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Old 10-20-2005, 12:43 PM
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Jim:

Regular unleaded was actually $2.45 this a.m. in Noblesville. Diesel was the same $3.60. That is a huge difference. Gas has been going down and diesel going up all week.
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Old 10-20-2005, 05:53 PM
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Make the most of it guys. Over here in the real world for the last couple of months diesel has been £0.98/Ltr or in your terms $6.60/US Gallon!!!!
Not a chance of it dropping.
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:50 PM
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yikes!

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Old 10-20-2005, 07:17 PM
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Make the most of it guys. Over here in the real world for the last couple of months diesel has been £0.98/Ltr or in your terms $6.60/US Gallon!!!!
Not a chance of it dropping.
Unfortunately, we would probably be better of in the long term if that was the case here. Aside from all the complaining we like to do, the cost of fuel is still a very small percentage of most americans' cost of living. We are unlikely to change our long term behavior due to a $1/gallon increase in fuel cost. There are still lots of SUVs being sold here.
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I'm pretty sure gas/diesel prices as high as that would slow down and hurt economy a lot.
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I found Diesel for $3.05 at the Shell in Sherwood, the cheapest I've seen in weeks. I filled up for only $40. (which also gives me the news that my fuel gauge has been lying to me) I can't believe I was excited about seeing "cheap" $3.05 diesel. Thanks to my WVO conversion, my mileage on that tank was 2.5 times Ebay mileage.
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Old 10-21-2005, 06:45 AM
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I wouldn't mind paying more for fuel if everyone was paying the same. It gets a few Durangos (8mpg city) off the road. The problem is paying a dollar + over the price of RUG. I'm thinking of picking up a Saab 900. I need a winter car and some payback would start right now.
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Diesel hasn't gone up in my neck of the woods in the last week, but it hasn't gone down either. Gasoline has dropped to 2.45. Diesel is still 3.09
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Saab 900's are cool, its the "Jerry Seinfeld car"
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Old 10-21-2005, 07:33 AM
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Prices reflect oil co. "taxation"?

Think the oil companies are gonna raise "X" number of dollars to pay for storm damages/repair facilities + a tidy profit. They are putting the premium onto diesel that all America relies on...as everything in the U.S. is delivered at some point by truck or diesel train. That way, even people without cars have to help pay the tarrif. So, in that respect, I guess it is more fair than simply raising the price of gasoline. As much as I don't like paying more for diesel, I have to agree that their way of raising money is probably more fair, in that everyone is gouged.

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Old 10-21-2005, 11:57 PM
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I no longer drive a diesel, but I still enjoy this forum.

I think it's interesting to think that diesel is the everyman's fuel, and a tax on everyone. It seems relatively counterintuitive, really, given that there are so few passenger car diesels. But it makes sense. Anyone else have thoughts on this??
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:42 AM
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well

i am bitter about it. and i blame the politicians running washington. or at least i dont expect any help from them. they have their hands in the oil companies pockets.

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Old 10-22-2005, 03:29 PM
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NO NO NO diesel must cost LESS than Gasoline.

Here in central/north NJ rug is 2.39 and diesel is 2.69.
Correct. Gasoline is a tightly controlled, manufactured product. Diesel is a crude distillation requiring less process control and less additives. It should cost less since the manufucturing costs are lower. Unfortunately there are many external forces acting on the pricing structure, including supply and demand of other fuels, especially heating oil.

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