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| View Poll Results: What fluid/oil are you using in your 4spd manual | |||
| ATF Dextron III |
   
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3 | 60.00% |
| ATF other (please specify) |
  
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0 | 0% |
| Engine Oil 10W-30 |
  
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0 | 0% |
| Engine Oil 15W-40 |
  
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0 | 0% |
| Engine Oil other (please specify) |
  
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0 | 0% |
| Gearbox Oil 75W-90 |
  
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0 | 0% |
| Gearbox Oil other (please specify) |
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2 | 40.00% |
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#1
12-22-2005, 05:54 AM
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4spd - What oil?
Hello forumites
 Thought it would be a good idea if we had a database of what worked and what didnt in our beloved 4spd manuals. For most, the original spec ATF is becomming hard to source, so a list of alternatives would be helpful  .
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#2
12-22-2005, 09:52 AM
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Redline MTL (Manual transmission lube).
Since it wasn't one of the choices, I didn't vote. Type A ATF can still be found around here if you know where to look. Good idea to change it. I drained the 5 speed when I first got my 240D a couple years ago and found it was about 1/3 water. (Definitely don't use gear oil)
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Palangi 2004 C240 Wagon 203.261 Baby Benz 2008 ML320 CDI Highway Cruiser 2006 Toyota Prius, Saving the Planet @ 48 mpg 2000 F-150, Destroying the Planet @ 20 mpg TRUMP .......... WHITEHOUSE HILLARY .........JAILHOUSE BERNIE .......... NUTHOUSE 0BAMA .......... OUTHOUSE
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#3
12-22-2005, 10:34 AM
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Without a doubt, Redline MTL. Mail order it if you have to.
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Rick Miley 2014 Tesla Model S 2018 Tesla Model 3 2017 Nissan LEAF Former MB: 99 E300, 86 190E 2.3, 87 300E, 80 240D, 82 204D Euro Chain Elongation References
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#4
12-22-2005, 12:53 PM
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I'll be replacing the fluid in my 220d's soon so I'm also very interested in the poll results.
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1985 MBZ 300DT 1969 MBZ 220d 1984 MBZ 300TDT 1981 VW Vanagon
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#5
12-22-2005, 02:11 PM
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Viscosity of Redline MTL is similar to ATF. It is not "honey like" the way gear oil is.
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Palangi 2004 C240 Wagon 203.261 Baby Benz 2008 ML320 CDI Highway Cruiser 2006 Toyota Prius, Saving the Planet @ 48 mpg 2000 F-150, Destroying the Planet @ 20 mpg TRUMP .......... WHITEHOUSE HILLARY .........JAILHOUSE BERNIE .......... NUTHOUSE 0BAMA .......... OUTHOUSE
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12-22-2005, 02:15 PM
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I don't have a Benz manual gearbox, but I use Redline MTL in my Subaru wagon and my Datsun 280Z with the Borg Warner T5.
All the rest of the gearboxes I've dealt with recommend 75W-90 gear lube; I know the WorldClass version of the BW T-5 wants ATF, but I was not aware that any vehicle manufacturer recommended ATF for manual transmissions.
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'83 240D with 617.952 and 2.88 '01 VW Beetle TDI '05 Jeep Liberty CRD '89 Toyota 4x4, needs 2L-T '78 280Z with L28ET - 12.86@110 Oil Burner Kartel #35 http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...oD/bioclip.jpg
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#7
12-22-2005, 03:04 PM
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Quote:
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12-22-2005, 03:14 PM
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If I had a manual transmission equipped MB, I'd use Mobil 1 ATF.
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#9
12-22-2005, 03:32 PM
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If I had a 4 speed MB I would try Redline MTL.
It worked better in my old 4 speed BMW than anything else.
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#10
12-22-2005, 04:03 PM
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Next question
How much?
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5 speed '91 190E 2.6 320,000 mi. (new car, fast, smooth as silk six, couldn't find any more Peugeots) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.5l Turbo Diesel 266,000 mi. (old car, fast for a diesel, had 2 others) 5 speed '01 Jetta V6 (new wifes car, pretty quick) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.2l Turbo Gas 197,000 mi. (wifes car, faster, sadly gone just short of 200k ) 5 speed '83 Yamaha 750 Maxim 14,000 mi. (fastest) 0 speed 4' x 8' 1800 lb Harbor Freight utility trailer (only as fast as what's pulling it)
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12-22-2005, 04:42 PM
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Yah.."Redline MTL" here too
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 1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
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#12
12-22-2005, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?subcatID=18
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Palangi 2004 C240 Wagon 203.261 Baby Benz 2008 ML320 CDI Highway Cruiser 2006 Toyota Prius, Saving the Planet @ 48 mpg 2000 F-150, Destroying the Planet @ 20 mpg TRUMP .......... WHITEHOUSE HILLARY .........JAILHOUSE BERNIE .......... NUTHOUSE 0BAMA .......... OUTHOUSE
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12-22-2005, 06:01 PM
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Price is not an issue when it comes to my baby (Benz). What I was wondering was the volume.
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5 speed '91 190E 2.6 320,000 mi. (new car, fast, smooth as silk six, couldn't find any more Peugeots) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.5l Turbo Diesel 266,000 mi. (old car, fast for a diesel, had 2 others) 5 speed '01 Jetta V6 (new wifes car, pretty quick) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.2l Turbo Gas 197,000 mi. (wifes car, faster, sadly gone just short of 200k ) 5 speed '83 Yamaha 750 Maxim 14,000 mi. (fastest) 0 speed 4' x 8' 1800 lb Harbor Freight utility trailer (only as fast as what's pulling it)
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12-22-2005, 06:17 PM
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As I recall, my 5 speed took about 1.5 quarts. I did the 240D and my Isuzu with 4 quarts, and I have a bit less than a quart left over.
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Palangi 2004 C240 Wagon 203.261 Baby Benz 2008 ML320 CDI Highway Cruiser 2006 Toyota Prius, Saving the Planet @ 48 mpg 2000 F-150, Destroying the Planet @ 20 mpg TRUMP .......... WHITEHOUSE HILLARY .........JAILHOUSE BERNIE .......... NUTHOUSE 0BAMA .......... OUTHOUSE
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