what will gas run in July..when the frenzy returns soon... - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Carrameow · #1 01-18-2006, 04:14 PM

you know you are getting old when yesterday was July and tomorrow is July, but no one is kidding me..Gas is going to hit at least....$3.30 this summer...thats my guess anyway..time for WVO..and a ten speed and a new pair of shoes

pawoSD · #2 01-18-2006, 05:47 PM

The overall cost increase is not that much, if I travel 4,500 miles this summer on trips, at $2.50 a gallon (current) diesel prices, it'd be about $480 in fuel.....if it goes up even as high as $3.50 a gallom, I'd spend around $580....$100 is not a huge difference in the long run on trips and stuff, and that'd be over the course of the whole summer probably.....I know I'll still be roaring down the freeway no matter what it costs.

junqueyardjim · #3 01-18-2006, 06:58 PM

It does go nothing but up. If you are a money flush young student in Grand Rapids like PawoSD, heck it probably would not slow him down if it was $9.50 a gallon. But we did just get through July, and July is just around the corner and I think we will see a lot of $3.30 to $3.50 diesel. And those oil guys will come up with such good (cock and bull) stories why they need the big price that we will "almost" believe em. Well I plan to burn a lot of the engine ruining WVO, and I am going to burn it cold, and I am staying with that great formula of 5 gallons WVO and 1 quart of RUG, "just to lite it up" I just haven't got into it so far that I want to do it on my vacation, but I know dear Reta wants to go home to Alberta, so I guess we will get a few miles on the Lincoln.

pawoSD · #4 01-18-2006, 07:27 PM

!!!! Money Flush Young Student?!!!!

I have noo money. I work in the IT dept at school, and a movie theater on weekends. (both near minimum wage) I pay for my own schooling and books and car (car = huge expense

), and live at home. Lets just say if something like my tranny went out on my car, I'd be saving in order to fix it....

I'm pretty much paycheck to paycheck here currently (very small buffer of $$)....

What I meant is that people who ARE flush with money seem to be the ones whining the most about fuel costs.

Yes it will dent my income if it goes up, but I am addicted to my car, thus I will try to absorb the cost. I always do some traveling in the summer, and what I meant was, on the overall cost of traveling, an extra $75-100 in fuel is peanuts.

I'd love to do WVO, but I don't have the $$ to get it setup, there are no reliable places to get it here (the city buys it from restuarants), and I'd only be able to use it part of the year, and don't know if it'd mess up the engine (debated topic). So I'll just stick with dino.

pastmaster · #5 01-18-2006, 09:02 PM

The price will rise to ??, because of the political aftershocks of Iran's, response to their Nuclear Program's termination by us-USA, or Israel. They will probably withhold their oil from the world market for a while. I think this may happen around March, 06.

I don't know what the numbers are, but over $3. a gallon, may be cheap. Sure scares me.

t walgamuth · #6 01-18-2006, 09:35 PM

of buying a big tank to tide me over the bumps up in price.

tom w

Austin85 · #7 01-18-2006, 10:50 PM

I can think of several reasons to covert or run on WVO or WVO blends;

but none to spend the $$$ to run on Dino.

Aside from getting a bit greasy why wouldn't someone want to save $$$, smell better exhaust, and recycle UCO for fuel if you already have the car that was built for it???

bgkast · #8 01-18-2006, 11:21 PM

Austin85- Do you run a single or 2 tank system?

aklim · #9 01-18-2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin85

I can think of several reasons to covert or run on WVO or WVO blends;

but none to spend the $$$ to run on Dino.

Aside from getting a bit greasy why wouldn't someone want to save $$$, smell better exhaust, and recycle UCO for fuel if you already have the car that was built for it???

Getting greasy is one. The other is the hassle of getting the oil, filtering it, storing it. Yes, I save money but spend my time and effort. It't cold outside. Why do I want to screw around in the cold or bad weather with collecting the oil? My time and effort is worth something. So I am saving money but spending my time and effort. Exhaust: Why do I care what it smells like? I'm not one for breathing the stuff that comes out of the tailpipe. I could care less about recycling UCO and my car wasn't built for it. It is able to run it. Only when it is warm tho. At this temp, it will freeze so I have to remember to switch to regular diesel and later on back to WVO. That and the effort to process the oil and collect and find a place to store it and have to make the fuel when I need it and now when I want to, makes it more expensive to me than diesel. I factor in my time and effort and the place I would need to rent to store the processed oil and the discomfort of working in the cold and it is too expensive. I could work for a few hours a week at McDonnalds and make money to feed the diesel car or gas car and be in more comfort than having to process the oil and collect it.

sailor15015 · #10 01-18-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Getting greasy is one. The other is the hassle of getting the oil, filtering it, storing it. Yes, I save money but spend my time and effort. It't cold outside. Why do I want to screw around in the cold or bad weather with collecting the oil? My time and effort is worth something. So I am saving money but spending my time and effort. Exhaust: Why do I care what it smells like? I'm not one for breathing the stuff that comes out of the tailpipe. I could care less about recycling UCO and my car wasn't built for it. It is able to run it. Only when it is warm tho. At this temp, it will freeze so I have to remember to switch to regular diesel and later on back to WVO. That and the effort to process the oil and collect and find a place to store it and have to make the fuel when I need it and now when I want to, makes it more expensive to me than diesel. I factor in my time and effort and the place I would need to rent to store the processed oil and the discomfort of working in the cold and it is too expensive. I could work for a few hours a week at McDonnalds and make money to feed the diesel car or gas car and be in more comfort than having to process the oil and collect it.

I think a lot of this is why my brother decided to get out of the WVO business. I'm also a beginning college student who lives paycheck to paycheck and not having to pay for diesel that often helps to soften the blow of the $140 zoology book I have to buy(one book for just one class). He didn't like the hassle and he's a doctor so money's not an issue for him. I wonder sometimes, when I sit here at my computer where three feet to the left of me I have to filter oil in my closet because its to cold outside. Unfortunately its hard to argue with cheap fuel when you commute and money's tight.

greasybenz · #11 01-19-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Getting greasy is one. The other is the hassle of getting the oil, filtering it, storing it. Yes, I save money but spend my time and effort. It't cold outside. Why do I want to screw around in the cold or bad weather with collecting the oil? My time and effort is worth something. So I am saving money but spending my time and effort. Exhaust: Why do I care what it smells like? I'm not one for breathing the stuff that comes out of the tailpipe. I could care less about recycling UCO and my car wasn't built for it. It is able to run it. Only when it is warm tho. At this temp, it will freeze so I have to remember to switch to regular diesel and later on back to WVO. That and the effort to process the oil and collect and find a place to store it and have to make the fuel when I need it and now when I want to, makes it more expensive to me than diesel. I factor in my time and effort and the place I would need to rent to store the processed oil and the discomfort of working in the cold and it is too expensive. I could work for a few hours a week at McDonnalds and make money to feed the diesel car or gas car and be in more comfort than having to process the oil and collect it.

Yes that is a problem in the colder weather! for me i hated it when i had to collect at the italian cafe because the rain would get into the barrel when i was pumping it out and that just meant more work for me to remove the water.

But i decided to stop collecting from him when i found the chinese place that had the barrel inside the kitchen! that was much better no water in the oil and warm in a kitchen with hot stoves

And the time and effort isnt that bad with a sophisticated system that makes it just as easy as going to the pump at a gas station. Take a look at greasecars filtering system its simple just put it in and pump it out clean! (http://greasecar.com/product_detail.cfm?prodID=19)

DieselAddict · #12 01-19-2006, 02:17 AM

I agree with aklim that our cars were not designed to run on VO. Yes they can run on it, but it takes a lot of effort and you'll likely have coking issues with your injectors and possibly fuel system waxing issues as well. I'd rather feed my cars what's good for them even if it's more expensive.

About the fuel prices, I have never been worried about them. Back in my college days when I was poor, I rode a bicycle to school and work. Now, money is not an issue, but I still prefer cars that get good fuel mileage because it saves money and the environment. It's silly that the people I see complain the most about fuel prices (on the TV news and such) are the ones driving the biggest gas-guzzlers. I really have no sympathy for them. But I can sympathize with those driving more fuel efficient cars and still struggling.

greasybenz · #13 01-19-2006, 03:17 AM

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It's silly that the people I see complain the most about fuel prices (on the TV news and such) are the ones driving the biggest gas-guzzlers. I really have no sympathy for them. But I can sympathize with those driving more fuel efficient cars and still struggling.

Especially when they come to do a report at a gas station in a ford econoline van that has so much equipment that the car nearly scrapes the floor and probably gets 3-4mpg with a small block V8

i think it would make more sense just having a econoline van diesel with some bioD in the tank at least to show that they arent just wasting our fuel supply with a 4mpg gas guzzler.

michigandon · #14 01-19-2006, 05:02 AM

Well if prices do jump up again I hope that the B99 at Wackers ends up being .75 per gallon less than D2 like it was last fall.

DieselAddict · #15 01-19-2006, 03:16 PM

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Well if prices do jump up again I hope that the B99 at Wackers ends up being .75 per gallon less than D2 like it was last fall.

You are very lucky to have nearly pure biodiesel nearby and cheaper than petrodiesel. All we have here is B5 that costs 20 cents more than petrodiesel and you have to have a member card and pay your bill monthly with a check.