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Old 01-30-2006, 11:23 AM
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300D Turbo AMG ?

Hey all,
Couldn't turn up anything on the search...
Saw a 300D Turbo Diesel this weekend with an AMG tag on the back. Is this real? Did AMG work on 300Ds in the early 80's?
The car looked identical on the outside to a standard 300D.

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Old 01-30-2006, 11:30 AM
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There was no such thing. AMG only did work on gassers, and they're very rare in the US. I don't know why people put AMG badges on cars like that, they're the same people who put S600 badges on their S320s, you ain't foolin' nobody.
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Old 01-30-2006, 11:56 AM
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i'd do it just for the painted and/or blacked out trims.

boy those are nice!

i dont see why you cant(without being the object of ridicule) add an amg kit and badge to a diesel powered car. theyre considered amg cars if you just buy a pair of spoilers, so why is it so weird?

its not the same as adding a v-tec badge, ya know?
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Old 01-30-2006, 12:24 PM
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Those V-Tec badges do wonders for Hondas.
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Old 01-30-2006, 12:28 PM
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Those V-Tec badges do wonders for Hondas.
It's nothing like what the NOS sticker did for my 300TD's performance.
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:23 PM
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Probably a $10 AMG badge purchased off ebay.

Fake badging really annoys me and I enjoy making fun of fake cars. Lots of posser E55's and S600's running around.

Fake up badging is very stupid, but down badging is very cool.
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:38 PM
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theyre considered amg cars if you just buy a pair of spoilers, so why is it so weird?
I think there was more to it than a body kit. They tuned the engines as well, didn't they? Limited slip diff. etc?

On the gassers, that is. Because after all, it is all just for arguement's sake when dealing with diesels since they didn't deal with them.

And no, don't put badges that don't belong on the car. If you want to make a "tuned by ineon" badge, then go nuts. But AMG didn't touch it, so don't say they did.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:00 PM
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If I recall correctly, the C30CDI AMG was their first attempt at diesel performance.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:03 PM
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Both AMG and Rentech along with a few other tuners are getting into the diesel game as of late. Both make mods for the CDI's.

AMG was an aftermarket company back in the 80's. You had to order your MB then ship it to AMG. They would pretty much do anything from just a spoiler to a full DTM build. However afaik they never did anything to any W123's. At least I have never heard of or run across an AMG W123. AMG W126's are around though.

To ID a real AMG car you need to run the vin, AMG keeps records. Also in the case of the W126's some of the mods are pretty extensive. From complete custom interiors to body kits, to 6L engines.

These days AMG still works with MB and builds a limited number or "real" AMG cars, ie not really MB's. Take the CLK-GTR for example, more AMG design then MB. They also build all their engines in house by hand. Every one is signed with a serial number. They do some really exotic stuff, like the 7.3L M120 V12's with titanium valve trains for Zonda. Of course they also work very closely with MB to build the fast cars we all know and love, that you can buy right from your local dealer.

There is an argument as to how modified the car has to be to have an AMG badge on it. I am from the school of thought that unless you have had engine, driveline, suspension, or brake work done an AMG badge doesn't belong on the car.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:15 PM
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Yes, they did 123's. Coupes, sedans, even wagons.
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Here's some pics of AMG 123s.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1246474&posts=5&fid=10
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[QUOTE=iNeon]

i dont see why you cant(without being the object of ridicule) add an amg kit and badge to a diesel powered car. theyre considered amg cars if you just buy a pair of spoilers, so why is it so weird?

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AMG is a tuner company that upgrades the drivetrains in MB cars for performance purposes. These upgrades usually add 20-35k to the price of the car. Spoilers and body kits are peripheral in that endeavor, and don't add performance. Furthermore, most body kits on MBs kinda look like fake AMG bodykits. SO what you have are people that are putting AMG badges on their cars, but the rest of the car including the body kit is fake(even the repro AMG wheels). So why is it so weird? Because it's just plain ghetto that's why. You're trying to be something that you're not. Like designer impostor cologne. Just cheap and stupid to pose like that. And I wouldn't call it weird. I'd call it low-class.
Adding an AMG kit to a diesel car, that's funny. While you're at it include a pair of fuzzy dice. And go out and get yourself a fake Rolex too. Then you'll be real cool.
At some point people have to realize that if you don't really have the money to play the game then it's more trouble than it's actually worth to act like you do, and no one will respect you for it. Stay in your class and be proud that it's enough for you.
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Old 01-30-2006, 03:13 PM
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i dont see why you cant(without being the object of ridicule) add an amg kit and badge to a diesel powered car. theyre considered amg cars if you just buy a pair of spoilers, so why is it so weird?

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AMG is a tuner company that upgrades the drivetrains in MB cars for performance purposes. These upgrades usually add 20-35k to the price of the car. Spoilers and body kits are peripheral in that endeavor, and don't add performance. Furthermore, most body kits on MBs kinda look like fake AMG bodykits. SO what you have are people that are putting AMG badges on their cars, but the rest of the car including the body kit is fake(even the repro AMG wheels). So why is it so weird? Because it's just plain ghetto that's why. You're trying to be something that you're not. Like designer impostor cologne. Just cheap and stupid to pose like that. And I wouldn't call it weird. I'd call it low-class.
Adding an AMG kit to a diesel car, that's funny. While you're at it include a pair of fuzzy dice. And go out and get yourself a fake Rolex too. Then you'll be real cool.
At some point people have to realize that if you don't really have the money to play the game then it's more trouble than it's actually worth to act like you do, and no one will respect you for it. Stay in your class and be proud that it's enough for you.
wahuh?

i never advocated the practice of misbadging ones automobile. i was under the impression that in the day, one could buy a 240d and send it to amg for a spoiler kit and badge. i dont know if anyone did.

so, whys it matter to you so much? if someone likes the blacked out chrome, let them have it. the objects are the same-- a mercedes body and amg parts. if they were put together in 1976 or 2006, theyre still only the same parts.

im not saying reproductions are ok, bootleg **** is bootleg ****. if you could find a new old stock amg spoiler kit, badging and wheel set together... would you not buy it and put it on your car? id put it on my shlomo the very next day.

does that make me a bad mercedes owner? a wannabe? i dont see how car parts, car parts put on a car they were designed for, are this very special.

its a freaking ducktail and a set of ground effects.
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Old 01-30-2006, 03:21 PM
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Interesting.

I never realized how ugly contrasting upholstery piping could be. I'll take my 123s plain, thank you.
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Old 01-30-2006, 03:26 PM
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i could live without that interior, but id love a 240d that looked like the green car on the bottom.

a 4 speed with cream(normal 240 style, with the black plastic trims everywhere) interior and a manual sunroof, please.

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