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Old 02-09-2006, 02:39 PM
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Do you really want to keep the EC activated all the time? My '96 doesn't engage the compressor at all unless the heat is off or the defroster is activated.

It's good to turn the compressor once in a while during the winter. The slight extra fuel you burn to do so will be rewarded with longer life for the compressor shaft seal.

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Old 02-09-2006, 05:51 PM
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Use the defroster, the winter months around here tend to put that feature to very good use.
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Old 02-10-2006, 02:38 PM
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Won't the EC button defeat the compressor operation when in the defrost setting?
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Old 02-27-2006, 06:04 PM
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Update since my last post. I turned on the EC button on my climate control. On my last two fill-ups, I've average 30 mpg as opposed to the 28 I was getting before. I need to drive some more but it looks like that EC button has helped some.

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Old 02-27-2006, 09:46 PM
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1999-e300-td

My 99-E300TD gets on the average 33 MPG ......I drive 200 mi. a day or more
Check your air filter ...change it every 10 -15000 mi. Fuel filters every 20-30000 mi. ...... A purge with Lubro Molly may help. I run 36 Pounds of air in my tires .....and of course check your speed.
The W/S switch makes a difference (28 on W 33 on S)
Also check to make sure your wheels rotate freely. A sticky Brake caliper can hurt ....Look at the rotors if thy have a mirror finish you have a problem....
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Old 02-28-2006, 12:15 PM
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I run 36 Pounds of air in my tires .....and of course check your speed.
Why do you run 36 pounds of air? I run about 28 as called for on the sticker by the fuel cap.

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Old 02-28-2006, 12:25 PM
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I believe adding a few extra pounds should increase your mileage. I run mine at about thirty three or so, a few pounds more than the sticker says.
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:36 PM
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It's all about rolling resistance. Plus there are tires that inherently have a lower rolling resistance. Factory number are usually there for comfort.

Here's some info from The TireRack...

must have a 50 tire topics... (nice resource of tire info)
http://www.tirerack.com/about/techcenter.jsp

Lower inflation pressures will allow more deflection as the tire rolls. This will build up more internal heat, increase rolling resistance (causing a reduction in fuel economy of up to 5%) and reduce the tire's tread life by as much as 25% while increasing the probability of irregular treadwear.

A vehicle's fuel economy is the direct result of its total resistance to movement. This includes overcoming inertia (Newton's Law), driveline friction, road grades, tire rolling resistance and air drag.

During stop-and-go city driving, it's estimated that overcoming inertia is responsible for about 35% of the vehicle's resistance. Driveline friction is about 45%; air drag is about 5% and tire rolling resistance is about 15%.

Overcoming inertia no longer plays an appreciable role in the vehicle's resistance during steady speed highway driving. For those conditions it is estimated that driveline friction is about 15%; air drag is about 60% and tire rolling resistance represent about 25%.

If the vehicle equipped with standard Original Equipment low rolling resistance passenger tires normally provided 25 mpg in the city and 30 mpg on the highway, installing tires with 20% greater rolling resistance would only drop fuel mileage by a calculated 3% (to 24.25 mpg) in the city, and a calculated 5% (to 28.5 mpg) on the highway. While this is a measurable difference, it probably isn't much more of an influence on real world fuel economy than being stuck in rush hour traffic a couple of times a week or being stopped at every red light instead of continuing through a string of green lights.

Additionally, the easiest way to reduce rolling resistance to enhance fuel economy is to make certain that the tires are properly inflated. A vehicle that requires its tires to be inflated to 35 psi (based on the vehicle's tire placard) will have an increase in rolling resistance of approximately 12.5% if the tires are allowed to become underinflated to just 28 psi. Therefore, maintaining the vehicle manufacturer's pressure recommended for light load and heavy load conditions may almost be as important as the tires being used.

So, in my thinking upping pressure some probably gains, maybe 1mpg, low rolling resistance tires maybe another 1mpg. Just a thought.
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Old 02-28-2006, 09:35 PM
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Yea...what he said.....
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Old 03-13-2006, 04:39 PM
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Another update. I increased my tire pressure 6 pounds all the way around. I'm now running 34 psi. On my last tank, I averaged 33.8 mpg. So a combination of using the EC button on the climate control and increasing my tire pressure bumped my mileage up from 28 to almost 34 mpg. Not bad.

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Old 03-13-2006, 07:16 PM
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Great to hear it. I just did a 700 mile run this weekend. Got just a tad over 30 mpg. But that was one day of in town driving and the rest slugging away on the highways/interstates running 70 and 75 mph all the time, plus some back roads with hills. Oh used the AC half the time plus the bride and a bunch of stuff in the car. Wonderful long distance cruiser though. Winter grade B20 probably did not help. And the 30mph winds I was running through all the time.

Did drive over some power lines in the road, debris here and there... keeping out of the 15 tornado sightings in my county. The weather band radio was very nice to track out my strategy for return home. Barely sprinkled on the MB. Company car sitting in driveway, ding city with the golf ball sized hail.
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Old 03-13-2006, 08:33 PM
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I just came back from a trip to florida, with a fully loaded car of five guys and a truck full of luggage, got an amazing 35 mpg an all out best. The first tank outa florida and into alabama and georgia got about 27mpg. As the trip progressed, it got better and better.
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:32 PM
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I just came back from a trip to florida, with a fully loaded car of five guys and a truck full of luggage, got an amazing 35 mpg an all out best. The first tank outa florida and into alabama and georgia got about 27mpg. As the trip progressed, it got better and better.

Hay he is alive! So you took her to FL, I hope they didn't trash it! Why don't you come back to town this weekend I havn't seen you in months!
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:46 PM
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I run the tires on my 300SD around 35-36lbs, I like the feel of it and the improvement in mileage. I just drove about 750 miles this past weekend and I averaged over 26.6 mpg at 75-80mph between the two trips. And it was really windy and rainy on the way back of the second trip (180 miles of it or so) still got over 26. I was getting 19-20 before I replaced my horribly leaky/brittle injecton return lines. Now I leak nothing, and mileage went up 5-6 mpgs!
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Old 03-14-2006, 08:45 PM
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I'm driving a W210 E300TD, UK-spec elegance.

On the motorway (highway), at a steady 75mph, I can easily achieve 40mpg.

The EC switch makes no difference whatsoever to my fuel economy. It was the same on my Audi A4. Some cars are just like that I guess.


I found the easy way to improve economy:

Check diesel spill pipe (underneath intake manifold) isn't leaking
Engine Oil change
Fuel filter change (check pipes for leaks)
Tyre pressure correct

I've just changed the ATF, I'm expecting that to make a difference as well.


The most important thing though is driving habits - accelerate like a lunatic and your mpg will suffer. Accelerate gently, and it will greatly improve.

I can easily get between 450-500 miles on a full tank of diesel, provided all my mileage is on the motorway. Around town in stop-start traffic, its more like 350-450 miles per tank.

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