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Old 02-26-2006, 11:10 PM
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would a Mercedes have stopped this

Check out these pics of a volkswagon http://www.driveandstayalive.com/articles%20and%20topics/crash%20causation/speed_swedish-motorcycle-crash_2005.htm

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Old 02-26-2006, 11:21 PM
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i dont know

if it would stop it but i would much rather try it in a benz if i had the choice!

that is pretty gruesome.

once on the way back from chicago i saw a car, a mustang i think, that had made the mistake of getting its nose under the trailer of a semi. the whole front end of the car was pinched down under the rear tandem wheels of the trailer. the passenger compartment was completely crushed flat. it didnt appear that there was any chance of survival.

makes me look at the trailers of a semi in a different light ever since.

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Old 02-26-2006, 11:32 PM
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I don't believe any passenger car could have stopped the energy contained in a motorcycle moving at 155 mph.

You'd need a steel I-beam formed from 3/8" plate and it would be heavily deformed from the impact.
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Old 02-26-2006, 11:36 PM
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Yeah, I'd take a MB, circa 1942, when they were building Panzers for the Wehrmacht because thats the only thing that will take that kind of hit. RT
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:38 AM
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Had that motorcycle hit the front of the car square on (head on collision) the ride would have been a splat on the windsheild...

Its a damn shame though that the passengers inside the VW were killed...
...even though most cars are not designed for this type of collision I would like to think that the older MB's would hold up a bit better. I notice the lower frame rail/unibody thing is torn clear through...also doesn't help that the VW is so low to the ground that the bike could essentially enter the passenger compartment through the passenger door. I would think with the slightly higer ride height of a full size sedan that the front tire would expel more force into the body/frame rather than, well, the door in this case.

Damn.
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Old 02-27-2006, 05:04 PM
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OMG!
That's almost like taking a missle in the side.
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Old 02-27-2006, 05:24 PM
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Yeah, I'd take a MB, circa 1942, when they were building Panzers for the Wehrmacht because thats the only thing that will take that kind of hit. RT

Yeah that is probably the only one that could do it.

Wow look at that damage!
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:55 PM
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As much as I love working on cars, random accidents such as this tempt me to throw down my keys...

Even were one the most defensive driver alive, how could such a psychotic driver be avoided? Granted, the risk of death is omnipresent--but arbitrary, unavoidable accidents happen every day; although we become aware of that fact only if a friend or loved one is injured or killed. Daily newspaper headlines describe innocent motorists being gruesomely maimed and killed by idiotic drivers. Just today a young local girl was killed and her friend hospitalized in a coma when a cell phone-impaired driver jumped the median on US441 and hit them head-on. The cell phone driver, of course, escaped unscathed.

Why is it allowable to murder people on our highways? If I were to shoot and kill anybody randomly in public, I'd be incarcerated for the rest of my life. Should the license to kill really be handed out like candy at every DMV in America? Don't the victims' families deserve real justice instead of a slap on the wrist for every driver that ruins one or more people's lives?

These questions seem more pertinent than a query into whether a particular brand of automobile is beloved enough to prevent the laws of physics from taking effect...

just a thought though.
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:21 PM
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These questions seem more pertinent than a query into whether a particular brand of automobile is beloved enough to prevent the laws of physics from taking effect...

just a thought though.
However given the title of the thread and the content of this section of the forum, our discussion of what type of automobile is safer would probably be as close as we are going to get without delving into the cirumstances around poor driving habits in the states.

I agree that it could be discussed and probably is more important but it belongs somewhere else....open discussion.


Seeing things like this is why I don't drive my VW back and forth to school every day...honesty I think when some soccer mom or jacked up pointless truck driving jerk with a humongous inferiorty complex threatens my life, I try to be best prepared as I can be. Thats the rule of survival...perpare as best as you possibly can (within reason) and maybe, just maybe, it will be enough when you really need it.
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Old 02-28-2006, 05:08 PM
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That motorcycle rider was a fool. The last thing that was going through his mind.........the drivers seat!
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Old 02-28-2006, 05:23 PM
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I remember reading an article back in the late 60s or early 70s about someone on a bike at those speeds hitting a cow broadside. They gave up trying to sort it out and just burried the whole mess together.
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:28 PM
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The year after I graduated High school my best friend T-boned a 4 door plymouth Valiant that failed to stop at a stop sign....my buddy was going about 90 at the time. hit the valiant dead center on the drivers side with his firebird and tore the passenger side door pillar off with his bumper.

1 person was ejected and survived by a miricle but 4 others died. My buddy spent a month in a coma but he was a different person after that..


Fact is at those speeds any accident will be catastrophic. Even if you were in a benz.
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:51 PM
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curb weight

the curb weight of the 1983 300 sd is about 3500 pounds and that
volkswagen looks like an a4 and its curb weight is about 3500 pounds.
The mercedes has one of the stiffest frames ever made and it was built
before the body sheet metal was reduced by 50%... So I think the door
of the mercedes would have probably held..... I think it would have flipped
and rolled and I think there would be a giant concave at the passenger door
but I dont think the motorcycle would have entered the car.... So perhaps
the mercedes driver would still be alive...but the passenger and rider would be
gonners...we could ask mythbusters...
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Old 02-28-2006, 09:22 PM
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That motorcycle rider was a fool. The last thing that was going through his mind.........the drivers seat!
Unbelievably Dark!! (but I did chuckle)

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