95 eclass diesel performance - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

skydog · #1 03-21-2006, 03:28 AM

Is the 95 a turbo? I`ve driven the new style 96and 97 and found them lacking in eceleration, can they be chipped and is this expensive or possible as the 98 and 99 are hard to find and over priced for the fuel savings.

#2 03-21-2006, 08:22 AM

The 1995-1999 uses the 606 engine. Only the 1998 and 1999 were turbocharged. I know that the turbo version can be 'chipped', but I do not know about the non-turbo. I do not think that I would discount a non-turbo 606 engine. True there is less power, but I would think that the power would be much smoother and make for a very nice ride. My 1999 will jerk you around if you put the pedal down hard when the transmission is in the 'S' setting. I usually like to drive it in the 'W' setting except for when I fell like humiliating showing some teenager in his testosterone buggy.

POS · #3 03-21-2006, 08:44 AM

Skydog, if you're even asking the question about the diesels needing a "bump", then don't buy anything but a '98-'99 turbo Benz. You'll be gravely disappointed in the lack of speed of the non-turbo versions.

Diesel Fan · #4 03-21-2006, 10:59 AM

" My 1999 will jerk you around if you put the pedal down hard when the transmission is in the 'S' setting."

Why do you drive with the switch in the W position in the summer?

I agree with POS above. If performance is at all a concern, don't drive a 98 or 99. You won't ever be happy again with the non-turbo's. I would also not EVER buy one of these for fuel economy. I just spent over $3k to replace my glow plugs. That would buy a lot of unleaded.

Matt L · #5 03-21-2006, 11:05 AM

I don't think the NA 606 can be chipped. The computer does little for that engine.

While mine isn't fast, it's fast enough for me, but I've never been in a turbo 606 powered car.

pawoSD · #6 03-21-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Fan

I just spent over $3k to replace my glow plugs. That
would buy a lot of unleaded.

You spent over $3,000 to replace glow plugs?

I barely paid that much for my entire car!

I guess the newer ones are more expensive to maintain.

I came up with about $175 in total parts cost for that job on fastlane......

d.delano · #7 03-21-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Fan

I just spent over $3k to replace my glow plugs. That would buy a lot of unleaded.

Sounds like you need to learn how to DIY. What- did the plugs sieze in the head necessitating a replacement head? That's the only way I can think of that new glow plugs would cost so much. Geez 3k for new glow plugs. Now I have heard everything.

Diesel Fan · #8 03-21-2006, 12:38 PM

The parts are more expensive. I think last time it was $56 a piece for the glowplugs. The real expense comes from the labor to remove everything else to get to the glowplugs and also the fact that they stick and break off in the head. I think five broke off this time. I'm relatively mechanically inclined but I wouldn't even consider trying and drilling these out of an aluminum head. I know my limitations and this far exceeds it. The head actually came off and was heated to help loosen the damaged plugs. I think the main cause is a badly designed glow plug that allows carbon to build up an cement them in place. And, I'm not a sedate driver. Carbon buildup elswhere in the head was not a problem. BTW, to be fair, this price included a replacement timing chain. It wasn't needed and wasn't that expensive but the head was already off and was worth doing now.

chuck95e300d · #9 03-21-2006, 09:57 PM

I suppose the answer to your question depends on your definition of "performance." My car does a good job at going slow

I get 32mpg and have a range of 650 miles between fillups. For my purposes (commuting 80miles/day) this is excellent performance.

In terms of speed, the car is a little slow getting from 0-60...but I think it has plenty of power for cruising between 65-80mph. If you want to go faster you might consider a different car.

The 95E300D cannot be "chipped."

aklim · #10 03-21-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck95e300d

The 95E300D cannot be "chipped."

That would be interesting. SpeedtuningUSA has programs for a E300D and an E300TD.

chuck95e300d · #11 03-22-2006, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

That would be interesting. SpeedtuningUSA has programs for a E300D and an E300TD.

Well I could be wrong, but I believe the 96/97 models had a different injection computer...which could be chipped where as the 95 model did not.

DieselAddict · #12 03-22-2006, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck95e300d

In terms of speed, the car is a little slow getting from 0-60...but I think it has plenty of power for cruising between 65-80mph. If you want to go faster you might consider a different car.

I agree with that description.