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junqueyardjim · #1 04-10-2006, 12:11 PM

Yessiree, the tulips, daffadills and forscithea are in full bloom in Central Indiana and so it is time for my faithful W123 to go on that diet of grease and gas, (lots of grease, very little gas). She got her first fillup this morning and immediately it started chuckleing. It really likes the stuff and so do I. It makes me chuckle plenty when I can fill it up on almost straight WVO. I hope to run on nothing but grease until Thanksgiving. Zero to 60 dropped just a little time, I would say to 17 seconds. Smooth, so very, very smooooooooooooth.

redassag00 · #2 04-10-2006, 12:14 PM

Jim
how are you getting the water out of the WVO, and are you cutting it with RUG?

junqueyardjim · #3 04-10-2006, 01:23 PM

That's a good question RedassagOO. There is always water in used grease and the answer is settle, settle, settle. If you don't let it settle enough, carry basic tools and a couple of extra filters. I do carry the filters, but have never had to use them. But I give it time to settle and use a good syphon system and never pour. If you consistenly syphon it is pretty easy to leave the water behind. But it does take time and involves some lifting. My fuel mix is simple and found it here on the forumn. Five gallons of filtered WVO and one quart of RUG.(Regular Unleaded Gasoline) That quart of RUG seems to give it a lot of power over straight WVO.

Austin85 · #4 04-10-2006, 02:00 PM

Good to hear another WVO user from up north.
Even though I get my WVO regularly from a sushi joint in pails.. I went back to my original source at another Japaneese restaurant Kyoto; that I have to dumpster dive for. But their oil is realy clean and something about it smells really nice.
Since it's alot closer it's actually quicker for me to get 10-15 gallons from Kyoto than from Sushi Yama....

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

redassag00 · #5 04-11-2006, 05:28 PM

How does one do the settle/filter thing?

pmari · #6 04-11-2006, 07:38 PM

Seems a little to viscous for me. IMO 80/20 is the thickest I would go.

Addicted · #7 04-11-2006, 09:00 PM

I don't know. If you are using good 100% veggie and it is always clear even down to freezing temps then I would stick it straight in. It is always a good idea to add RUG but I would say even 10% (should google to see how much percentage a quart is for you mix) but it should be around that. Just make sure it is mixed well and that you don't let it sit in your tank a long time. It seperates out over time. But if driving then I think the sloshing is more than enough to mix it up.

pmari · #8 04-11-2006, 09:53 PM

32 of 640 = 5%
IMO, even if your using new SVO off the shelf 80/20 is max. I base this on one of the only documented blends that worked with out problems... Schur Ecofuel.

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Originally Posted by Addicted

I don't know. If you are using good 100% veggie and it is always clear even down to freezing temps then I would stick it straight in. It is always a good idea to add RUG but I would say even 10% (should google to see how much percentage a quart is for you mix) but it should be around that. Just make sure it is mixed well and that you don't let it sit in your tank a long time. It seperates out over time. But if driving then I think the sloshing is more than enough to mix it up.

Addicted · #9 04-11-2006, 10:30 PM

One thing I've heard of off the shelf oil is that it still has degumming agents in it that may be harmful. Haven't read much on that though. But yeah a couple extra percent RUG can't hurt. Heck only cost you a buck or 2 and may save you much more trouble in the future.

mespe · #10 04-11-2006, 11:18 PM

It's not just for french fries anymore.

Ooohhh what a feeling

10-20% Rug when it gets cold closer to 20%, when it warms up 10%

Also the BEST places to get WVO are churches during Lent. 1 Fish fry per week = really clean oil.

www.benzbonz.biz

Marty

junqueyardjim · #11 04-14-2006, 11:48 AM

Now I syphon my settled WVO into cubes and I have both 4 gallon and 5 gallon cubes. And they both get a quart of RUG. I had a small sample of the 5% mixture sitting on the shelf in the garage all winter, from early November tell April 10. I have checked those mixtures of both diesel and RUG in WVO and never saw even a hint of separation. I don't believe it exist. I did see a lot of variation in visible fat and or parraffin.
I believe Redassig00 asked how do you strain it and settle it. Well, straining it you have to run it through either a home made or commercial filter. I am doing quite well with about 6 different layers of cloth, from nylon to denim with a number of layers of various cotton between. It's fast, easy and washable. I boil my dirty clothes in my turkey boiler for a few minutes with a good shot of dishwashing detergent. That gets them clean enough that the wife will allow them in the washer. I would say I typically can get 40 gallons of WVO through my clothes before I wash them.
Then I let it settle. Settle means don't move it, shake it, or stir it up. The longer you can let it settle the better it is. I have 150 gallons that I have been settleing since late last summer. I will pick up some new WVO in early summer, but won't get big amounts tell after Labor day. For my syphon I have a good one I bought last year at a truck stop. It has a brass ball check valve at the bottom end and it makes it great to suck up the oil since you can do it very carefully and when you need to take a breath the ball check valve holds it right there. So you suck it up to with in 5" to 6" of the end of the tube which is 3/4" clear plastic. Then when it is close to the end, you cap it with your finger and fill your cubes or gerry cans.
But remember to keep the syphon off the bottom of the holding container, because that is where all the water is.

Addicted · #12 04-14-2006, 12:08 PM

I would be interested what materials you use and the space inbetween them. My system just used the denim and it clogs after about 5 gallons usually and that is with settled stuff. I'm not sure if I have the ability to change my little set up if there is a lot of space inbetween the layers. IF I could just lay them all on top of each other I think I could do it.

What do you think the Micron Rating is of the Nylon you are using?

junqueyardjim · #13 04-14-2006, 01:07 PM

Addicted has asked for a list of my filter materials. First of all, all the pieces except for the "T" shirts are approximately 4' x 4', and the bottom is nylon window screen material for strength. I lay this over the top of a 60 gallon drum, force it down 10 to 12" and hold it with a bungee cord. Then I add the following dense cotton to light weight denim, mostly shirt and skirt material from Walmart. I have four of those pieces and I think one could vary them a bit with the same good results. I top it with a 60" x60" piece of nylon "Wedding Dress" material. Now I install all this on the top of that barrel, remove the bungee cord and strap it down snug with rubber tarp straps. Its grease, everything gets greasey, so you have to snug it down tight. If you dump now 5 to 7 gallons of grease in that hole or sump and fill it to the brim, you do have quite a little weight, and you don't want to loose it. Also, on top of the top piece of nylon I lay about 3 or 4 "T" shirts split open so they are single ply. If I dump in a whole cube and there is a lot of debris in it, when that does pour through I remove that shirt and the debris and now I have a clean one underneath. When I get 50 gallons in the barrel I consider it full. Then I do run it all through my denim blue jean pants pipe filters. I made a holder from a piece of counter top, and had four holes made in it from 5 to 7 inches in diameter. At the flea market I bought a number of boys "littleboys" blue jeans and we use the legs for a secondary filter. The bottom of the pants pipes I closed up with a very small hose clamp. The wife hemmed the upper part and left an opening where I can install 12 or so inches of small plastic tubing. The hemmed upper part then will sit above the hole and then I put the whole assembly on a new clean garbage can. Each pants pipe filter will take about 2 to 3 quarts of oil times 4 filters - its slow but I think it does a great job. I ran all last summer on WVO, and only changes the fuel filter this winter when it got quite cold. Then I notice it was down on performance, put in two new filters and I suspect I will again have to change them in January. Mabe I will be smart and do it when I go back to dino about Thanksgiving.

Addicted · #14 04-14-2006, 01:15 PM

Pretty creative thank you for the listing. It sounds like you can filter quite a bit of oil pretty quick. It takes me a few days if I'm not out there all the time changine the filters to fill up my 55 gal barrel. I think I'm going to take some of your ideas into account for my next set up I build at my dads shop. There I hope to be able to filter a lot more oil a lot quicker as he has a lot of space and there will be more than one car running off of it.

Thank you,
Jason

Austin85 · #15 04-14-2006, 05:35 PM

I filter into a 55 gallon drum;
Top is cut off so it's open
Chicken wire formed to support cloth, with inverted bowl shape;
Holds exactly 5 gallons;
1 bed sheet; (the single flat that no one uses...)
folded over 4 X
fiilters 5 gallons in 10-15 minutes;
To clean I just shake out the crumbs on the lawn for the critters...squirrels etc
It lasts for 100's of gallons;

BTW there were gas lines here today...