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Old 06-08-2006, 06:25 PM
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Alas, sheared bolt

So I was finished with my new timing chain: we went up hills and down, with the new chain and all was a-ok, until the temp just kept rising. Luckily it was just around the block and pulled into the drive and under the hood: coolant EVERYWHERE. Leak was in and around the tensioner, so naturally I checked the bolt that was available without removing the engine thermostat....yep, needed tightening...then I tightened the damn thing right off. It broke about half the bolt off, NOT flush with the engine block. So I bought a bolt extractor and small drill bit, then thought better of it. I guess I'll just find a local mechanic to extract it for me? Was that bolt just old or am I that strong (or should I finally get a torque wrench for my bfriend and I to share?) Oooh it was so close.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:36 PM
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my first

that was one of my first bo bos I was changing a thermo on a honda.
I tightened to much and broke the housing.... what an ordeal...

This is one of those life lessons.... and from now on you will undertighten...
and you will be ever so catious....

Good bolt strong arm... time for a lighter touch and time for the torque wrench...
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Old 06-08-2006, 09:32 PM
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the bolts on the tstat housing are known to break.. i soaked the bolts in pb blaster for about a week to be safe, and cross threading into the alum housing is easy to do..drill and tap it and you'll be good
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:24 AM
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Ohhhh, I am so good at bustin' bolts, went pro at 12 years old! My Dad took a old ratchet and cut the handle down to about 3" long...that helped a lot.

Tight is usually tight enough and a "touch more" is really too much and one small "grunt/umphh" is usually followed by an snap/ting noise and a stream of bad words. Turning bolts should not turn into a power-lifting contest.

Righty tighty, lefty loosey, go easy
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:38 AM
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I don't know

I have always been told to tighten the bolts until ya strip the threads and back it off a 1/4 turn.

What size ratchet were you using to tighten the water neck?
didja use antiseize on the bolt? You of course wire brush cleaned the bolt and tapped out the threads before reasembly right?
give us an update when you get it back to gether.
John
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Old 06-09-2006, 11:31 AM
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If you can still get a grip on the broken bolt, I found that the bolt extraction tools you get at Sears work well. They're like sockets that grab on to the surface. It costs about $20 to buy a pack of them.
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Old 06-09-2006, 11:35 AM
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Oh he was using a small 3/4 inch rachet with a 15 long handle.
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Old 06-09-2006, 11:58 AM
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Gretchen,

Try some heat on the housing to remove the bolt. But be careful you don't melt the aluminum.

Here's my story from yesterday:

I had 2 4mm screws in the my alternator (ALT) that secure the V-regulator. Neither would come out and I knew that if I turned them too hard, they would break.

I remover the ALT (that's another story) and carefully heated the aluminum ALT case with my acetylene torch using a steel shield to protect the plastic V-regulator from the heat of the flame. Carefully working the screws back and forth, I eventually got the screws out unbroken.

I will reinstall the screws using an anti-sieze compound so this does not happen again. U should do the same.

P E H

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