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Old 06-10-2006, 11:35 AM
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working room/setting valves

Do you folks take the hood off to set valves? I am lining up on doing this job for the first time. Both I and my (sometimes) helper are over six feet tall, and prone to wacking heads on hoods....

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Old 06-10-2006, 11:48 AM
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What car are you talking about? The hood may just go up 90 degrees
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Old 06-10-2006, 12:47 PM
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hood off?

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What car are you talking about? The hood may just go up 90 degrees
Sorry, '83 300CD. The hood opens, then flipping two little catches it opens some more, but no where near 90*.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:22 PM
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Are you sure the hinges are clear? I seem to recall the hood opens a little beyond vertical so the weight isn't on the safety tabs.

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Old 06-10-2006, 02:17 PM
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no where near 90*.
Alta Luthier
It should, try the passenger side latch
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Old 06-11-2006, 12:28 AM
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and please be gentle when closing or opening hood to overextended position. If your hinges are weak/bent/broken you can break the windshield before you realize what's going on. I learned the hard way, just want to prepare not scare.
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Old 06-11-2006, 12:49 PM
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opening the hood all the way

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and please be gentle when closing or opening hood to overextended position. If your hinges are weak/bent/broken you can break the windshield before you realize what's going on. I learned the hard way, just want to prepare not scare.
I think my hinges mat not be quite right, then. I shall investigate further. Perhaps I need to do something there before the valve adjustment. (And the warning about the windsheild is duely noted )
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Old 06-11-2006, 06:34 PM
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hood hinge springs/ opening the hood all the way

I am trying to upload a pic of my hinge on the driver's side. (I don't know if it will work though, as it doesn't show in the 'preview').
I moved the hinge spring up onto that third hook and it will hold it more open now. I am concerned about all the extra spring pressure to close it though. Maybe I ought to move it back after I set the valves.
where do you guys have your springs?Are the other models the same?
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Old 06-11-2006, 07:06 PM
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I am trying to upload a pic of my hinge on the driver's side. (I don't know if it will work though, as it doesn't show in the 'preview').
I moved the hinge spring up onto that third hook and it will hold it more open now. I am concerned about all the extra spring pressure to close it though. Maybe I ought to move it back after I set the valves.
where do you guys have your springs?Are the other models the same?
Thanx Alberta Luthier
That's a mistake.

Return the spring hook to the original position.

Check your own photo.

At the very bottom of the photo is a small tab. Each hinge mechanism has one of these tabs. With the hood in it's normal up position, push down
on both tabs simultaneously and lift the hood higher until it's straight up.........90 degrees from vertical. The tabs will then lock in this position and you'll need to release them to lower the hood.

It's possible to do the lift by yourself if you carefully lift one side very slightly before the other. Note, however, if you lift it too much, with the lock engaged, you can break the hinge or you'll never get the tab to release.

Find a helper and push both tabs down at the same time and lift the hood fully vertical.

Don't lift the hood to 90 degrees if there are strong winds present.
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Old 06-11-2006, 07:18 PM
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Ahhh I get it

Thanx B.C. I get it now. I put the springs back (that didn'y fel right, anyway, thus the post).
I have released the tabs, No problem as one releases just before the other (so I didn't need to try to conscript the teenager)And I see it will open way up.... jus not enough headroom in the dang garage to get it all they way.
I will just tie it up most of the way while doing the planned valve service.
I definatly won'r do it outside as the poplar seed fluff is happening here right now and I don't want a wack of that crap in my engine.
I am also realizing that I am needing more light before this job (thus the hinge missunderstanding) and had better move a light fixture. still getting used to 50 year old eyes I guess.
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Alberta Luthier
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Old 06-11-2006, 07:34 PM
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Thanx B.C. I get it now. I put the springs back (that didn'y fel right, anyway, thus the post).
I have released the tabs, No problem as one releases just before the other (so I didn't need to try to conscript the teenager)And I see it will open way up.... jus not enough headroom in the dang garage to get it all they way.
I will just tie it up most of the way while doing the planned valve service.
I definatly won'r do it outside as the poplar seed fluff is happening here right now and I don't want a wack of that crap in my engine.
I am also realizing that I am needing more light before this job (thus the hinge missunderstanding) and had better move a light fixture. still getting used to 50 year old eyes I guess.
Thanx'
Alberta Luthier
Good job. I can relate to the height restriction in the garage. I've got the exact same problem.......the hood can't go all the way up.

And, the lighting problem has been troublesome for years. I finally installed two eight foot flourescent fixtures in each bay. Each fixture takes two bulbs. Each bulb is rated at 110 watts. So, in a given bay, there's 440 watts of flourescent power raining down on the engine compartment.

Can you say daylight?

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