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Old 06-27-2006, 10:06 PM
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300sd turbo question

Hello,

My Turbo only develops about 7 to 8 psi does anybody know if thats enough to compress the ALDA.

I have no power on hills.

The Mercedes specs I believe are 10 to 12

thanks

Brian

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Old 06-27-2006, 10:26 PM
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7-8psi is what most 300SD's and 300D's run at from the factory. Look elswhere on your SD for your problem, it looks like the turbo is not it.
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:40 PM
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first sign

no power is the very first sign of a need to
change filters, also clean the tank.
Clean the banjo bolt on the back of the engine.
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Old 06-28-2006, 03:48 PM
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300sd turbo question

Hello,

Thanks for the replies.

I have checked my 1982 300sd/w126 and it runs fine. The PSI from the Turbo to the ALDA rises all the way up to 15 PSI. While my 300sd/w116 stays at 7 PSI.

Is it true that all the Garrett Turbo's whisle. I have one that does and one that doesn't. The one that doesn't has the power problem.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Brian
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Old 06-28-2006, 04:15 PM
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300sd turbo

Hello again,

I found this on the web........Richard Sexton

The turbo itelf creates in excess of 2 bar (30 psi); to limit this to the 1 bar the car needs, a wastegate vents excess pressure to the atmoshphere. Factory spec is 0.9 to 1.0 bar, (about 15 psi) but they never came that way from the factory, most are in the 0.5 - 0.6 (about 7 psi) bar range. Calibrating this to factory spec makes a phenominal diference in performance.

Brian
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Old 06-28-2006, 04:22 PM
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The ALDA only requires a little boost to move it. I don't know what PSI will max out its travel though.

Have you adjusted you wastegate to try and raise the boost? If you can't get it to go any higher you might have a cracked wastegate valve seat or need a new wastegate spring.

http://diymbrepair.com/easley/wgate.htm
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=114337

My garrett doesn't whistle and it makes about 10 psi of boost. I do need to replace the wastegate spring though. I want to run 14 PSI of boost although spec is 10 to 12 PSI.
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Old 06-28-2006, 06:34 PM
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Hello,

Connclark, thanks for the post and the additional info on the Turbo.

I'm at a loss right now on what is the next thing to check.

The car takes off quick from start [1st gear] and then bogs down in 2nd. It seems as if not getting enough gas[diesel]. It will only change up when I lift my foot a tad.
Normal take off [ light on the pedal ] accelerates nicely. Its only when you floor it.

Any suggestions.

Could it be the valves?

Please advise

brian
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:36 PM
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Hello,

Connclark, thanks for the post and the additional info on the Turbo.

I'm at a loss right now on what is the next thing to check.

The car takes off quick from start [1st gear] and then bogs down in 2nd. It seems as if not getting enough gas[diesel]. It will only change up when I lift my foot a tad.
Normal take off [ light on the pedal ] accelerates nicely. Its only when you floor it.

Any suggestions.

Could it be the valves?

Please advise

brian
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:29 PM
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Factory boost spec is .7-.8 bar (10.15-11.6psi) as shown in the OM617 FSM.
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:38 PM
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Your not gonna get a lot of boost without fuel. I would check the line from the intake to the alda for restrictions. Also adjust the alda if it hasnt been done before.
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:14 PM
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Hello,

Omegaman, thanks for your input.

However, that's been checked and double checked.
I get 7~8 PSI at the ALDA.

There has to be something else involved here. As anybody else had a similar problem.

I have replaced the ALDA from one I bought off eBay.

Adjusted the ALDA up and down and it doesnt make a lot of difference unless I back it right down.

please advise

anybody

Brian
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:19 PM
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I'd bet your tank screen has sludge all over it.
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:32 PM
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In post #3 you were advised to change fuel filters, check the tank screen, and check and clean the pressurized line from the banjo bolt to the overboost valve and then from that valve to the ALDA.

Did you do any of these things?

You were given solid advice and yet you continue to ask the same questions.

Finding your problem is a step by step endeavor. The turbo is near the very end of the process.
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Old 06-29-2006, 12:30 PM
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Hello,

Brian, those were done and its still the same complaint.

Brian
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Old 06-29-2006, 12:35 PM
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Hello,

Brian, those were done and its still the same complaint.

Brian
maybe you could try temporarily bypassing the overboost protection valve.

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