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phasmatisnox 07-03-2006 05:36 PM

FYI: Keys for 80's 123s are easy
 
Don't pay $30 to a dealership. Many locksmiths don't have any idea when they look at your key compared to the books- because our cars are old enough that they're not in the books. My local locksmith kept the old books around, was able to make a copy for me. I have an 84 300D. The key blank that you need is "X83" or "MB39". Mine is an Ilco brass key. I know a lot of you want steel keys, but I'd rather have a bunch of $3 brass keys get worn down than the brass insides of my lock getting worn down by the steel key. Hope this works for you, and good luck.

stcbenz83 07-03-2006 05:41 PM

so you can get a factory original key from the dealership??? with the black boot on it??

Wodnek 07-03-2006 05:47 PM

Yes, I got a couple too.
Try getting a key for a 116 though...

phasmatisnox 07-03-2006 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stcbenz83
so you can get a factory original key from the dealership??? with the black boot on it??

No, it's a plain Ilco brass key. I'm going to powdercoat mine, though. If anyone wants me to powdercoat their keys or other small object, I should be able to do that after Christmas this year.

speedy300Dturbo 07-03-2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by phasmatisnox
I know a lot of you want steel keys, but I'd rather have a bunch of $3 brass keys get worn down than the brass insides of my lock getting worn down by the steel key. Hope this works for you, and good luck.

Actually, when the brass keys wear down, they leave behind small shavings that eventually destroy the lock tumblers.

Maroon 300D 07-03-2006 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by phasmatisnox
No, it's a plain Ilco brass key. I'm going to powdercoat mine, though. If anyone wants me to powdercoat their keys or other small object, I should be able to do that after Christmas this year.

I got a key from the dealer. I'm looking at it now. I don't think it's brass...but what do I know? This thing is brass?:eek2:

Mister Byrnzoil 07-03-2006 06:48 PM

speedy is right
 
$48 for 2 OE keys from the dealer was harsh, but its cheaper and less hassle than changing a tumbler.

Maroon 300D 07-03-2006 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maroon 300D
I got a key from the dealer. I'm looking at it now. I don't think it's brass...but what do I know? This thing is brass?:eek2:

Nevermind, I think I read things wrong. This key is cold, hard steel. :D

carson356 07-03-2006 10:53 PM

when in doubt use a magnet

carson356 07-03-2006 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by speedy300Dturbo
Actually, when the brass keys wear down, they leave behind small shavings that eventually destroy the lock tumblers.


i agree, i think it is funny when i advise customers to trash their brass keys and get OE steel keys, but they continue to use them the a month later the car is towed in with a key that won't turn. amounts to pay me a little now, or pay me even more later.

miner 07-03-2006 11:39 PM

I still dont understand. A brass key on brass leaves doesn't leave shavings unless it is nickel plated. Right? Steel is much harder than brass. Why would you want to rub hard steel on little brass leaves? Plus, $25 per key? I know we all want to avoid having to drill out a steering lock, but again, how do metal shavings get in the tumbler from a brass key if all it is rubbing up against are brass leaves?

TwitchKitty 07-04-2006 08:09 AM

Get both, keep the cheap brass keys as a spares and use the new steel key everyday.

123c 07-04-2006 09:46 AM

Don't use brass keys, as the others have said. I think the brass keys is what destroyed the locks in my old 300CD.

gatorblue92 07-04-2006 10:10 AM

the keys for my 123 from the dealership were much lower quality than the oem ones... the plastic is much softer and bends:(

carson356 07-04-2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorblue92
the keys for my 123 from the dealership were much lower quality than the oem ones... the plastic is much softer and bends:(

those are oem, for some reason on the new cut keys for the 123 mercedes uses the cheap plastic head, which with time will bend as you said, i have collected some used ones to replace when i am working on customers cars and they rip, just to avoid problems. you can also buy them as replacements from mercedes.


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