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JWJ 08-15-2006 04:27 PM

Lug bolts?
 
Why do German cars have lug bolts instead of lug nuts?

MattBelliveau 08-15-2006 04:29 PM

I used to have a Mazda that had Bolts. In fact, most every foreign car that I have not worked on, had bolts.

Wes Bender 08-15-2006 04:40 PM

They lost the war and it's their way of getting even.........:D

Lug bolts are a PITA, but you can get a threaded stud to help hang the wheel while you put the bolts in. I just balance the tire and wheel on my foot while installing bolts.

SirNik84 08-15-2006 04:51 PM

I'm not sure why they do it, but i don't have any problems with it. The wheel centers itself on the hub. if you push the center cap with one hand, to hold it on the hub, you can spin the wheel with the other until the holes line up and then put on the bolts.

softconsult 08-15-2006 04:58 PM

The last two posts are sort of surprising.

Are you guys aware of the alloy wheel mounting device that comes in the tool kit. Before you remove the wheel you screw device into one of the top bolt holes. When you put the wheel back on you simply lift it onto this temporary stud. Put in a bolt or two and tighten finger tight. Remove the tool and put it back in the tool kit roll.

I'm sure they are available at the dealer.

Steve

sokoloff 08-15-2006 05:25 PM

My '59 ponton has lug nuts. My '83 240D has lug bolts. Somewhere in between they made the change.

Len

softconsult 08-15-2006 05:28 PM

The answer seems obvious to me.

Alloy wheels.

How do you make the top of a stud and the nut look aesthetically pleasing?
No problem if you have steel wheels and hub caps, but Alloy Wheels change everything.

Steve

JEREMYC 08-15-2006 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by softconsult (Post 1247166)
The last two posts are sort of surprising.

Are you guys aware of the alloy wheel mounting device that comes in the tool kit. Before you remove the wheel you screw device into one of the top bolt holes. When you put the wheel back on you simply lift it onto this temporary stud. Put in a bolt or two and tighten finger tight. Remove the tool and put it back in the tool kit roll.

I'm sure they are available at the dealer.

Steve

I was not aware of this. I have owned 3 MB's and I have worked in a salvage yard as a salesman for over 5 years. Never heard of such a thing. I will have to look in my tool kit (if I have one) and see if it is in there. My first aid kit was still in my car when I bought it so maybe that is too. We will see!

winmutt 08-15-2006 05:58 PM

Came to me in a flash. Perhaps because of less wear and tear on the threads?

pawoSD 08-15-2006 07:25 PM

Bolts are replaceable, the threaded studs on an American car's hub are not, you'd have to replace the whole thing. They designed them to last a long time, so they went with bolts instead of nuts. Thats what I think anyways...

nazrat 08-15-2006 07:58 PM

Our C280 has the alignment tool, and without it installing the front wheel is very frustrating. The front hub just spins with the wheel.

-Tad

winmutt 08-15-2006 08:18 PM

Just get someone to press the brakes real quick :)

lkchris 08-15-2006 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokoloff (Post 1247194)
My '59 ponton has lug nuts. My '83 240D has lug bolts. Somewhere in between they made the change.

Len

My VW Vanagon has lug bolts for front wheels, lug nuts for rear wheels.

Hatterasguy 08-16-2006 01:04 AM

MB provides that handy tool in the tool kit to line the wheels up. Works like a charm if its used.

The center of the wheel sits on the hub and supports the wheel, and the car. The lug bolts simply keep even pressure on the wheel. Must be a good system if MB uses it. Just as long as cheap spacers are not used, then the wheel goes for a ride without the car!:D

jrgslg 08-16-2006 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by softconsult (Post 1247198)
The answer seems obvious to me.

Alloy wheels.

How do you make the top of a stud and the nut look aesthetically pleasing?
No problem if you have steel wheels and hub caps, but Alloy Wheels change everything.

Steve

I think this is the correct answer.Can you imagine how ugly it would be any other way ? Thanks for the information on the alloy wheel tool,I was not aware of its use.Johnny :) :)


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