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Help- may have killed the car
I was coming back from GA yesterday and just south of Richmond VA the I noticed I couldn't cut the cruise off with the switch, and the car wanted to accelerate on its own. I was going 80. I used the brakes to slow down enough to exit(while under power), and the car kept on wanting to accelerate in 4th as I came to a stop and killed the engine. Thinking it was just an electrical glitch with the cruise actuator, I started it back up and it revved to 5k in neutral under no load. Killed engine immediately, then tried again and it did it again and I killed it immediately, but not before it revved to 5k. I crapped in my pants twice. Turns out the two bolts holding the front accelerator linkage plate to the valve cover vibrated loose enabling that part of the linkage to get loose and bind and hold wide open. I had just done a valve adjustment, and merely snugged those bolts. You can bet I torqued them down hard after seeing that. I didn't torque them down hard to begin with because I'm always worried about overtorquing things, especially when it comes to steel bolts in aluminum threads.
My question is thus: 1) how much damage have I done to my car Car runs fine with no suspect knocking noises, shifts fine- but there is a psychological element that makes me think I hear little subtleties that I haven't heard before. My mind will mess with me like that at times like this. I understand that revving under no load while cold is very bad, but while at operating temp??? The car has been accidentally revved like that 3 times now while in my ownership. Had to lean on the brakes to slow down- but didn't smell anything burning when I got the car stopped. All systems seem nominal. I'm worried a rod bearing or something like that has had its life drastically shortened by this incident, or my transmission has been damaged. Anybody??? Hopefully you can put my mind at ease Got home from vacation last night to find my kitchen full of the upstairs neighbors wastewater My goodness what a week I'm having
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Since the engine was fully warm and had oil pressure, the chances of damage are much less than if this had happened on a stone cold start up. At least you shut the car off within seconds. If you have ever seen how many "mechanics" abuse customers cars, you wouldn't be worried. When I had the brakes replaced on the Eldorado, the mechanic pulled around to the side of the shop and did a full burn out with the car. What a moron.
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The wastewater is worse than the car
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I hope the wastewater came from the neighbor's kitchen and not their bathroom.
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One of the older guys in my last shop told me one how when these engines came out, they had one on a stand at school, and let it run wide open all day long purposely. no damage. of course, that was when it was new, but I don't suspect you hurt anything with what you did.
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Good point, I hope the same thing. I would agree, this is probably much worse than what happened with your engine. I would bet it's OK.
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Probably the best Italian Tune Up it ever had!
I agree probably no damage at all. Danny
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No harm at all except your dirty underwear I believe. Mercedes engines are basically built to rev pretty good. Five thousand is is not enought to disenigrate them really when previously warmed up. Also remember in your instance you were probably still only up against the injection pump govenor. The loss of the injection pump itself is more likely at higher reves. That is the primary reason for the rpm limiter or govenor in these designs rather than the engine itself I believe. Now when you are running away on base oil for instance there is no govenor protection at all. I have no ideal how high the engine can scream as the only fuel limitation then is what it can get. A small amount of medium locktight might be a good ideal on bolts you do not want to torque down too much..
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things are tough all over I guess
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Happend to me with the SD when I was trying to start it last winter. I bit to much throttle and starting fluid, when she cought she ran to almost 5k before I killed it. That was with below zero oil. Never noticed a difference either way.
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Wash the underwear in bleach, clean the seat and dont give it another thought.
You definately did nothing to your car. Just be glad you did not get into an accident.
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I doubt you did any damage. Worst case, it will live to 995K miles insted of 1 million.
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im surprised how high these engines rev... ive never seen a diesel rev to 4500... mine gets up to 4k when i have to merge into traffic.. i dont like doing it but its either that or be creamed by a peterbuilt
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Now that I'm used to it I've come close to over revving my F250 PS diesel pickup. These cars also warm up faster than any diesel I've ever driven. Cheers, Bill |
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yea they do. the guague is on 80C before i leave my subdivision most of the time.. i cant wait for the winter here in fl
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I've never had any fear of revving my 300D hard - I just don't rev it as high as the one's I'd valet park back at the country club when I was 16...
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