The Path to B100...begins here. - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

PanzerSD · #1 09-17-2006, 01:19 AM

I'm forming a petition composed of at least 5000 signatures.
to as my Provincial government to look at the possibility of building a B100 plant here where I live.

In my province there are just under a million people. of those, 87% are farmers. of that 64% are CANOLA farmers. I live in a rural community where the main part of the canola is farmed. I've talked to alot of farmers and asked them if they would be interested in having an alternate market for their oilseed. They generally seemed EXTREMELY interested...so I'm going to post these petition forms at the local Co-Ops, and am going to get my MLA (like a US senator) involved.

We have More Canola in Saskatchewan than we know what do with.

I think that if I can get this ball rolling, I can finally bring B100 to Saskatchewan in a bigger way that present. There's a MAJOR work shortage here and I think that this "enterprise" if you will will be very beneficial for everyone in my province! hell, I'd jump at the chance to own Saskatchewan's forst B100 filling station.

winmutt · #2 09-17-2006, 07:59 AM

Sorry to rain on your parade but your station would be out of business first winter. Waxing point of most bio is in 30s-40s. Hardly suitable for Sasquatch!

Sygma6 · #3 09-17-2006, 06:38 PM

As I understand it filling stations will change their mix rate for winter/summer. With some research in to the gelling temps for x bio and y diesel, kerosene, etc mixtures it may be possible. I don't really know the average temperatures in the winter up there.

#4 09-17-2006, 06:48 PM

The station I fill up at won't even sell B20 in the winter because of waxing problems.

pawoSD · #5 09-17-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

The station I fill up at won't even sell B20 in the winter because of waxing problems.

They still sell B2 and B5 here in the winter but they discourage B20 or B100 heavily.

jshadows · #6 09-17-2006, 08:08 PM

Despite waxing characterstics I'm sure you could come up with a seasonal business model that could probably sustain itself. Ski resorts, summer resorts do it all the time. And the great thing is the people that work in those business get at least 1 season off.

You could also look into agreements with distributors in the more tropical areas for the winter months, or year round.

If there's that much VVO sitting around, there's something to be done with it. Just needs a little creativity. Exactly what separates an good entrepreneur from the rest. Go for it!

Old300D · #7 09-17-2006, 09:19 PM

I've run B40 at -20F, heavily winterized.

BioBens · #8 09-18-2006, 12:18 AM

Gina,

I'm in the early stages of setting up Montana's first commercial biodiesel production plant @ 1.5 million gallons/yr. Hook me up with some of your farmers for 500,000 gallons of canola oil and I'll see that you get your BioD filling station.

Kimball
ps: I run B100 here in Montana year-round

PanzerSD · #9 09-18-2006, 12:36 AM

The way things are here, I have to go to the government to allow the export of Canola seed/oil.

Our politicians here are really tight assed. our current Premier is an arse who does nothing to create jobs, if I can't get a plant, at least I can add income to more than half the province by finding that third party buyer for BD.

and I would't open a station that sells SOLELY BD, it'd have methanol based fuels for gasoline powered vehicles as well as regular diesel and MANY mixtures of BD.. and Montana isn't that much different that where I am as far as winters go. I need to get the ball rolling here first before I can really do anything more.....

just thought I'd let you guys in on what I'm up to incase someone had some vital advice for me

but basically, if I can get canola farmers on the side of Biodiesel, then we got this licked. as it stands now, aside from out oil resources that are 100% exported to other countries, Canola is our only renewable resource that primarily stays here in Saskatchewan.

greasybenz · #10 09-18-2006, 01:08 AM

stick with B20 for winter and B100 for the non cold seasons.

Also when you have a biodiesel station have your customers sign up to a membership. And give them the info on gelling and flter clogging issues.

We went to the berkley marina today to ride the new sport boat we bought. (a sea ray 185 sport) Towed it with my moms F250, and filled up at the biofuel oasis. Since we werent members they gave us a "talk"

Basically the explained the filter clogging issue but since the truck is new and only has 3K on ULSD we should have to worry about filter clogging. They also said B50 mix seems to do well in cold temps but the SF bay area rarely gets weather below 30F. Our "cold mornings" are at 56F and bio depending on feedstock usually starts gelling at 40F.