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OldPokey 10-10-2006 12:15 AM

Figured out why my Tach won't work...
 
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I was replacing the cracked brake fluid reservoir, and I noticed a loose cable. Looks like a flywheel sensor! Might explain why AC does not work either...

Checked around the bellhousing looking for a hole where I could see the starter gear, but there does not seem to be one on this engine/tranny. Judging by the parts the PO included in the deal, I think the engine/tranny came from something that used the TDC sensor on the harmonic balancer to feed the tach.

So now I have to figure out how to convert a one pulse per rotation to something that produces however many teeth there are on a ring gear per revolution.

Does anyone know how many teeth there are on a ring gear?

JimmyL 10-10-2006 12:25 AM

Is your '84 a California model?

sailor15015 10-10-2006 12:44 AM

My '85 has one of those where the engine and trans mate but it also has a pickup at the flywheel.

PanzerSD 10-10-2006 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OldPokey (Post 1299485)
I was replacing the cracked brake fluid reservoir, and I noticed a loose cable. Looks like a flywheel sensor! Might explain why AC does not work either...

Checked around the bellhousing looking for a hole where I could see the starter gear, but there does not seem to be one on this engine/tranny. Judging by the parts the PO included in the deal, I think the engine/tranny came from something that used the TDC sensor on the harmonic balancer to feed the tach.

That is very likely. My 617.950 has the sensor on the harmonic balancer, but mine is non-op...I don't have that little tit sticking out of my sensor, perhaps it's been broken off.....hmmm...

OldPokey 10-10-2006 01:14 AM

It's a federal.

OldPokey 10-10-2006 06:53 PM

Where does the flywheel sensor go anyway?
 
Does anyone know wher on engines/trannys that use flywheel sensors the mounting point is supposed to be?

1985 300SD Sady 10-10-2006 09:42 PM

its near the back of the oil filter housing.... kind of hard to get at.

I could get you a picture.:rolleyes:

OldPokey 10-10-2006 09:52 PM

Please do!!! Thanks.

JimmyL 10-10-2006 10:54 PM

Weird. I thought only 85's and '84 Cali. models had the sensor on the bell housing. They also have them on the front, but is for diagnostic purposes, not for tach.

BTW, my tach has never worked..... :( :(

OldPokey 10-11-2006 01:18 PM

This one is definately a 1984 Model. Built August of 1983, actually!

OldPokey 10-11-2006 10:58 PM

Perusing the manual, this is an "Engine Speed Sensor" and it's supposed to be bolted on the left hand side of the engine near the edge. Of course, since the engine in my TD is an earlier model, the mounting points don't exist.

OldPokey 10-11-2006 11:06 PM

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Here's a copy of the rotten picture that is in the manual:

1985 300SD Sady 10-15-2006 10:45 AM

sorry, this thread got by me... I will post a picture tonight when I get home.

Jeremy5848 10-15-2006 12:00 PM

Diagnostics
 
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Originally Posted by JimmyL (Post 1300360)
Weird. I thought only 85's and '84 Cali. models had the sensor on the bell housing. They also have them on the front, but is for diagnostic purposes...... :( :(

What kind of diagnostics? Is that what the connector on the driver's (left) side inner fender is for? See attached picture. Anyone ever seen what is supposed to plug in there?

DeliveryValve 10-15-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyL (Post 1300360)
Weird. I thought only 85's and '84 Cali. models had the sensor on the bell housing. They also have them on the front, but is for diagnostic purposes, not for tach.

BTW, my tach has never worked..... :( :(

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Originally Posted by Jeremy5848 (Post 1303905)
What kind of diagnostics? Is that what the connector on the driver's (left) side inner fender is for? See attached picture. Anyone ever seen what is supposed to plug in there?

Jimmy is correct that only the '85 and '84 California models only have that sensor for the tach which is controlled by a computer. The '84 Federals only the sensor up front at the balancer and runs through the tach amplifier.

Jeremy, You would hook up an external tach to that attachment (it is actually where the "old" tach amplifier supposed to be) so you can see what is the RPM while under the hood.


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