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190E manual transmission
Ive read that the 190E manual transmissions would bolt up to 603's and ive found a 190E 2.3 with a 5-speed short shifter. Which ive also taken a Remus muffler off of
Anyway, i want to know if it will bolt up to my 603, the junkyard only wants $100 for the trans. I assume ill have to take the third pedal and all the other connections to it.
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Current: 05 E320 CDI 07 GL320 CDI 08 Sprinter 05 Dodge Cummins 01 Dodge Cummins Previous 2004 E55 AMG 2002 C32 AMG (#2) 1995 E300 1978 300D 1987 300D 2002 C32 AMG(blown motor :[ 1981 300SD 1983 300SD 1987 300SDL 2002 Jetta TDI 1996 S420 1995 S500 1993 190E 2.6 1992 190E 2.3 1985 190E 2.3 5-Speed |
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I know the tranny will bolt up, I don't know if the pedal or shifter will bolt in.
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Whoever owned this 190E did some mods from what i see, has AMG pedals, H&R springs..etc.
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Current: 05 E320 CDI 07 GL320 CDI 08 Sprinter 05 Dodge Cummins 01 Dodge Cummins Previous 2004 E55 AMG 2002 C32 AMG (#2) 1995 E300 1978 300D 1987 300D 2002 C32 AMG(blown motor :[ 1981 300SD 1983 300SD 1987 300SDL 2002 Jetta TDI 1996 S420 1995 S500 1993 190E 2.6 1992 190E 2.3 1985 190E 2.3 5-Speed |
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What is this short throw shifter you speak of? Where can I get one?
Thanks, John
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1986 190D, 2.5L, 5-speed swap, 180,000 Miles (60K by me). Jeep CJ-7 with Cummins 4BT/NV4500/AtlastII 4.3. Grand Wagoneer 4BT project in progress! |
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Maybe someone else can go into more detail this is just what i was told by my dad.
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Current: 05 E320 CDI 07 GL320 CDI 08 Sprinter 05 Dodge Cummins 01 Dodge Cummins Previous 2004 E55 AMG 2002 C32 AMG (#2) 1995 E300 1978 300D 1987 300D 2002 C32 AMG(blown motor :[ 1981 300SD 1983 300SD 1987 300SDL 2002 Jetta TDI 1996 S420 1995 S500 1993 190E 2.6 1992 190E 2.3 1985 190E 2.3 5-Speed |
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On these, I believe you either lengthen the shifter levers on the body or shorten the levers on the tranny.
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it would be longer arms under the floor.
the pedal cluster and shifter should bolt in. imho. i have not done one but would be just astonished if this turned out to not be correct. the rods from the shifter to the tranny might be different lengths and you might have to shorten or lengthen the drive shaft as well. small price to pay to get a stick tranny. tom w
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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That makes sense. I have some spare transmission shift arms, I suppose I could cut and weld them shorter. Did anyone write up how to do this?
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oh yeah, that would work too.
sorry i didnt read closely enough before. tom w
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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BTW, if anyone's interested, I know where there's a 190e in Modesto with a manual tranny that's going for $400. New clutch even...would make a great donor car.
PM me if interested, or check out the classifieds on 190revolution.net.
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I assume that its all coming from and going into a W201 (190) chassis. If so, its a bolt in with the correct parts. I did this with a W124 (300E). Its all intelligent grunt work: no welding, no fabrication. Do a search of this site, its there. Get ALL the parts from the donor, otherwise it will get expensive if you have to buy even some of the bits.
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