Y'all,

I'm going to be installing EGT and boost gauges in my 300td and would prefer to use ones with English units. I've seen pics on the interweb of what appear to be English-unit W123 gauge faces, but didn't save the links and can't find them now. Does such an animal exist? If so, are they readily obtainable?
No, I don't want to use any sort of aftermarket rice/bling colored faces!

TIA,
Shawn

you mean stock gauges?

Yep, that's what I'm looking for -- stock gauge faces in English units to match aftermarket gauges in English units. As for "stock," my gauges are stock but are in metric (i.e. temp in C, oil pressure in bar).

Is that your 240D? Which W123s have gauges in these units?

The early 240Ds (both my '79s included) have US units. Not sure about the early 300Ds. Why not just get euro gauges for your turbo?

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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine

That's stock?? Your oil/fuel/temp one just looks weird. I don't mean the numbers, I mean the way the numbers/letters are written (font style and size).

Hmm, I like my Celsius and Bar pressure measurements. It reminds me that there is the other system out there of weights and measurement

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-justin

1987 300TD, 1987 300TD
2008 R32, 2000 Passat Wagon

It also should remind you are driving a car that was designed using those non-barbaric units. Anybody saying that British Imperial Units are the tradition in the USA should go to the UK, kneel and swear allegiance back to their Queen.

The fact that early w123 have SIgauges and later BI gauges has actually some historical significance. Carter created a program in 76 to switch the USA so SI units... Later, Reagan in 1981 pretty much canceled the program (that is actually the first thing he did in office). By now USA would use the same system as the rest of the world... BTW, the law is still supposed to be active.

Anybody that has ever taken an advanced thermodynamics class know how British imperial units sux when you are confronted to real engineering problems...

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1979 300SD Black/Black MBtex239000mi
1983 300TD euro-NA. White/Olive Cloth-MBtex 201000mi. Fleet car of the USA embassy in Morocco
1983 240D Labrador Blue/Blue MBtex 161000mi

Because I want English units -- so there! I have English units in my other cars and I don't want to have the human factors problem of "negative transfer" and have to do mental conversions in my head all the time. Heck, most folks on the board here talk about boost in psi!

Having an Aerospace Engineering degree, I know what you're talking about -- thermodynamics was the least of it! Structures, aero, what have you -- it was (and is) all English... pound-force, pound-mass, slug, blah, blah, blah...

I can verify my 78 and 79 300D and TD both have english units on the gauge faces.
John

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My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

my 1983 Euro 240D also has the english gauges. were as my 300D has the regular Bar and Celcius for the temp. I like my 240D's better.

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2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS:Totaled Sept.,09 @ 24,000
2003 Infiniti I35 58K Sold
1984 300 turbo diesel 222K

Hmmm, my 77 300D had non english type.. makes you wonder.

my 80 300SD is in metric units... i like the look on peoples faces when they see the metric units... they can tell oil pressure guage but have no clue what the 1,2 are for then i tell them it is a bar reading and they just look puzzled

Again that is the basic problem of the BU... you have to make conversions even within the system.
Don't make conversions in your head just embrace the new unit on its own.
When did you have your degree? Nowadays it is extremely rare that advanced engineering classes are offered only in BU.
To give you credit: some SI units are not very handy when it comes to size. For instance, when talking about hydraulic pressures or boost the numbers come out nicer looking in PSI than in bars (0.35bar boost???).

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Aquilae non capunt muscas! (Eagles don't hunt flies!)


1979 300SD Black/Black MBtex239000mi
1983 300TD euro-NA. White/Olive Cloth-MBtex 201000mi. Fleet car of the USA embassy in Morocco
1983 240D Labrador Blue/Blue MBtex 161000mi

It really depends what industry you work in. In the U.S. power industry, everything is in BU so that's how everyone thinks. It really doesn't matter what you learned in engineering school, because you learn about 90% of what you really need to know after you graduate.

yes that is mine and yes it is stock

I had it in '88... and I think I still have it! What do you base your "extremely rare" statement on? Are you familiar with Aerospace Engineering? I'm in the industry and it's still standard.