Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 06-27-2010, 11:14 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,632
What's wrong with resurrecting old threads?

Its fun reading through them.

__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 06-28-2010, 08:25 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,423
Old threads have alot of wealth of info ,the quote of dont use them ,like this one, "Please do not resurrect dead threads. Start a new thread after searching the archive to make sure someone hasn't already answered the question."
I Revived this one because it matched my original question and had alot of good input.Enough said.
I final got the 190s slave cylinder bolt away.It required me to setup a 1/4 inch ratchet with 2 swivels and two 4 inch extentions to get the little sucker.The other problem is when reassembling the entire brake and clutch piece ,youll be looking at reattaching the brake fluid resorvoir hose piece to the master clutch cylinder first before bolting up the unit ,this is your main fluid feed and you dont want to kink it or mess this up.I bought a newer longer piece due to old age and not much room given when reinstallment on the original shorter original hose.It sleeves the line into the opening allowed ontop of the masters C.Bleeding the clutch is the job on hand and Im sure in costs a shop would have dropped me for north of $400. on the fix .In parts and new tools Im in it for less than $145.Looking back on this youll have 3 hurtles ,the upper bolt on the slave cylinder ,the reinstallment of the master cylinder to the pedal assembly due to those peskey small clip holders that holds the master C rod in place,and the finally the main hydro line feed to the master cylinder.I dont know how many 5spd 190s are out there but if this task is on your plate I hope this helps a DIY er er out there.

Last edited by chasinthesun; 06-28-2010 at 08:37 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 06-28-2010, 10:06 AM
Stevo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NW WA
Posts: 6,299
You didn't try lowering the tranny by dropping the cross member?
__________________


1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 06-28-2010, 10:46 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,423
I had limited tools due to my storage unit being broken into ,jacked the car up high enough but didnt feel safe loosening up anything will underneath the car .Thanks ,Ill try this next time.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 06-28-2010, 11:11 AM
Stevo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NW WA
Posts: 6,299
Quote:
Originally Posted by chasinthesun View Post
I had limited tools due to my storage unit being broken into ,jacked the car up high enough but didnt feel safe loosening up anything will underneath the car .Thanks ,Ill try this next time.
I may not live long enough to ever have to do another 617 clutch slave again but if I do I'll try it. I dont think it will drop very far and a wedge may be needed to hole it down, but even an inch lower would probably make a big difference.
__________________


1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 06-28-2010, 11:26 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevo View Post
I may not live long enough to ever have to do another 617 clutch slave again but if I do I'll try it. I dont think it will drop very far and a wedge may be needed to hole it down, but even an inch lower would probably make a big difference.
Steve - An "S" shape 12/13mm ring spanner makes that top bolt a breeze. After fitting a new clutch a few weeks ago I doubt if I will be needing it again either
__________________
Beagle
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 06-28-2010, 02:26 PM
Stevo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NW WA
Posts: 6,299
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
Steve - An "S" shape 12/13mm ring spanner makes that top bolt a breeze. After fitting a new clutch a few weeks ago I doubt if I will be needing it again either
Thanks, also really appreciate your fine post about clutch bleeding. I finely get it figured out and you come up with the "better mouse trap' I"LL also try that "oil can" method if I live long enough to need to do it again.

A "ring spanner" would be a regular old "box end" wrench? and then start bending till it reaches up there and has room to turn the nut, Yes. Thanks again
__________________


1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 06-28-2010, 04:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevo View Post
A "ring spanner" would be a regular old "box end" wrench? and then start bending till it reaches up there and has room to turn the nut, Yes. Thanks again
No, it is a double ended ring spanner in the form of a letter S about 8" long. any auto spares store should have them - usually in sets. Very useful for all sorts of other tight spaces too.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/283493586/S_TYPE_DOUBLE_RING_SPANNER/showimage.html
__________________
Beagle

Last edited by Beagle; 06-28-2010 at 05:15 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 06-28-2010, 06:50 PM
Stevo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NW WA
Posts: 6,299
[QUOTE=Beagle;2495728]No, it is a double ended ring spanner in the form of a letter S about 8" long. any auto spares store should have them - usually in sets. Very useful for all sorts of other tight spaces too.

Oh OK, I was under the impression you bent one up, outstanding, another tool to buy Thats easy... This five cylinder engine, or I should say, the extra space this five cylinder engine takes up, requires a few more tools and sweat than my 616s do
__________________


1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 05-13-2013, 08:08 AM
whunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 17,416
Recycled

for customer

__________________
ASE Master Mechanic
asemastermechanic@juno.com

Prototype R&D/testing:
Thermal & Aerodynamic System Engineering (TASE) Senior vehicle instrumentation technician.
Noise Vibration and Harshness (NVH).
Dynamometer.
Heat exchanger durability.
HV-A/C Climate Control.
Vehicle build.
Fleet Durability
Technical Quality Auditor.
Automotive Technical Writer

1985 300SD
1983 300D
1984 190D
2003 Volvo V70
2002 Honda Civic

https://www.boldegoist.com/
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page