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12-14-2006, 11:35 AM
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State of the MB Diesel Art to Bluetec.
Seasons Greetings,
Whilst reading on another forum, I read this article. I thought it would be of interest to all of us. http://www.worldcarfans.com/classics.cfm/country/gcf/classicID/5061213.001/mercedes/the-evolution-from-diesel-to-bluetec-in-depth 
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#2
12-14-2006, 12:04 PM
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Very informative article on the history of the diesel engine. Filled with awesome vintage MB adverts/photos. Don't missing this article.
Great quote: Quote:
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-justin 1987 300TD, 1987 300TD 2008 R32, 2000 Passat Wagon Last edited by justinperkins; 12-14-2006 at 12:47 PM. Reason: added message about OM
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12-14-2006, 01:10 PM
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I've not found the reveal for the OM yet, but I did find that on paper Rudolf's calculations called for 253BAR of compression!!!! that's over 3500PSI!!! and ours are likely under 300psi... wow. what was rudolf smoking?
John
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!  1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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#4
12-14-2006, 01:40 PM
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OK I found the OM part, I also found a minor error, I think, it calls the first diesel car the W138 body style... Um I bet they meant the OM138 Motor, probably the w21or so body.
John oh, and I would just about kill to get one of those ultra sleek supercars they built.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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12-14-2006, 01:47 PM
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With a swept volume of 3,005 cubic centimeters, the OM 617, designed as an in-line five-cylinder, generated 59 kW (80 hp) at 2400 rpm and had a respectable top speed of 148 km/h (92 mph). With acceleration from standstill to 100 km/h in 19.9 seconds, the new top diesel model from Stuttgart was the liveliest and fastest diesel car in the world and featured impressive smoothness and economy. 53,690 units of the 240 D 3.0 were manufactured; in all Mercedes-Benz sold 945,206 W 115-series diesel cars.
the first 300D? cool. a W115 240D with a 617, now I bet that is a car to have! almost 54thousand of them built shouldn't be too hard to find. John
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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12-14-2006, 01:48 PM
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and this info...
he starting equipment of the five-cylinder diesel also was innovative: instead of the mechanical shutoff device of the 2.4-liter engine only a pneumatic device was used, so that the engine could be shut off with the ignition key. Starting was also by a turn of the key in the 240 D 3.0 and not, as previously was the case, by pulling a lever: when the driver turned the ignition key, preglowing was initiated and an indicator lamp lit up. When the light went out after a bit, the engine could be started in the normal way with a key. What now appears the most natural thing in the world was appreciated as a new comfort feature in 1974, which has since gradually found its way into all diesel cars of the brand and beyond. WOW. John
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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12-14-2006, 01:56 PM
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Thanks for that info, A 240D "3.0" was a new one on me.
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 1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
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12-14-2006, 02:07 PM
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By far the most powerful diesel engine in a Mercedes-Benz car made its arrival in the S-Class in the year 2000. From a displacement of four liters, the light-alloy V8 OM 628 DE 40 LA developed 184 kW (250 hp) at 4000 rpm. It delivered torque of 560 Newton meters at 1800 to 2600 rpm. A top speed of 250 km/h (155 mph) and 7.8 seconds for accelerating to 100 km/h illustrate the role of the S 400 CDI as first among the Mercedes-Benz diesel models.
 Wow that's an amazing feat for a 4 cylinder. I wonder what the displacement is?
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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#9
12-14-2006, 02:08 PM
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1923: The OB 2 diesel engine from Benz & Cie.
Cool, exposed push rods and rocker arms, wonder what it turned, reminds me of the old marine "Atlas" and "Washingtons" The "stamp mills"
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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car" Last edited by Stevo; 12-14-2006 at 08:13 PM.
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12-14-2006, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
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______________________ 1981 300D - {172,000} 1971 220D {Sold to TomJ}
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12-14-2006, 02:51 PM
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arrgh! step one. learn to read
 John
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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12-14-2006, 03:24 PM
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Diesel is very popular in Europe and with 50% of all passenger cars diesel, I wonder what the price of diesel fuel is COMPARED to gasoline. Here in US diesel is roughly 15% more than the premium gas and that makes diesels a little less attractive compared to other countries.
Vahe 240D 77 350K
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12-14-2006, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
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12-14-2006, 07:05 PM
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Here in Houston, Texas diesel fuel is somewhere between 10 to 15% more expensive than the premium grade gasoline. What I am wondering is the price ratio of diesel fuel to the premium gas in Europe, anyone know what that is?
Vahe 240D 77 350K
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12-14-2006, 07:59 PM
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Last month in France :
Diesel: 107 Euro cent/liter Octane 98 : 128 Euro cent/liter
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