On another list I frequent, a post said that the police set up a traffic check and were siphoning diesel from cars to test it. I presume that they can tell that it was sold from a retail store and not from a non-taxed source. How they know the difference?

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1967 250SL

Diesel for offroad use has dye added.
The dye is visible on the injectors
and in the fuel itself.

Its dyed in the UK too-red,used by farmers etc & pretty
basic stuff,I understand.
What is the other site you frequent?

Tigerfox.

That is the same in the Netherlands...the government had the different tax-leveled diesels colored in different ways and sends out the custom-personal frequently to harass us Diesel drivers...

greetingz,

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hope they got a mouth full of the tasty stuff ,what next roadblocks to make sure we brush our teeth up and down.......
William Rogers........

Hi Gang,

I've been driving heavy trucks (concrete mixers) for eight years, only once have I been stopped by I.R.S. diesel investigators. They set up shop right outside a big quary to check all the heavy trucks, no cars though. They simply drop a clear glass straw tube in your tank and hold their thum over the top end of it to draw up the fuel. If its red, I hear that they impound the truck and arrest the operator.

That hasn't stopped me from accidently winding up with some of the red stuff in my MB's tank now & again...

BTW, gas here today is $1.51 for reg, and $1.39 for diesel & 1.29 for the red...

~George~

There are checks on commercial vehicles around here to determine if offroad fuel is being used, what the soot content of exhaust is, and if their emissions controls are in place and working.

Frankly, I have never seen them stop passenger vehicles, not even buses. Mostly mixers and gravel trucks so far.

And George, I don't think it's worth the $2.00 a tank you might save. Not to mention that you want to use a diesel fuel with the highest cetane rating available in a Mercedes, along with some Redline DFC or 85+...

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Scott Longston
Northern California Wine Country...
"Turbos whistle, grapes wine..."

Very interesting.

So where do you get this "off road diesel"? When on road trips, I just stop by the gas stations, but I never seen a sign that said "non tax fuel or off road", etc.

If they dont stop passanger cars and with my car being a diesel, I could probably get away with it. But the problem is I dont know if i want this stuff in my car if its going to hurt the injectors or engine and I dont know if its worth the risk to save a few bucks. I would hate to be 4 states away and have my car impounded and be locked up with bubba, lol.

The off road fuel is the fuel delivered to farms, mines and places where the fuel will be burned while not on public roads. Another source, for those of us up north, is heating oil. These are just a few examples.

Rick

Here at least, you can buy "off-road" diesel at the pumps.

Both "off-road", and regular highway fuels are diesel #2, the difference is a dye the's injected into the fuel if you select the "off road" version on the pump. The dye is the only difference between the two fuels (besides price), and the point is to be able to collect the road taxes on the fuel. There is a $1,000.00 fine for using "off-road" in your car or truck.

I was told that the CHP and the EPA are both setting up fuel checks for passenger vehicles mainly due to so many Dodge RAM diesels, and people trying to use the "off-road" to save on skyrocketing fuel prices.

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Scott Longston
Northern California Wine Country...
"Turbos whistle, grapes wine..."

An interesting concept, "off road fuel" at the pump. I guess I have two questions. 1. How did they get the equipment to the pump. 2. How do they get it away from the pump? (which brings yet another question....don't I have better things to do than contemplate these two questions?)

Rick

Yup, on my way up to Ukiah, Mendocino County, Calif.
a couple of weeks ago, I encountered my first
gas station offering both "premium" diesel
and off road diesel. So, its out there.
Took another week to scrape all the bugs off the front of my car and radiator! will a road stop do THAT
for ya????
yabba bubba doo

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hmm this is very interesting. i was wondering what the differance was between off road use and normal. i never used the off road use diesel. i thought that it would damage the car in some way. but i guess it would be good for emergency use. theres a station in this town i go to all the time and thats all they sell for diesel needless to say i've never tried it out. diesel police now i think ive heard everything

Gas cans is how they transport them. Usually at least. Rarely have I seen a tractor at a diesel pump.