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Old 01-14-2007, 01:32 PM
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frozen 190D

Well, almost. She fired right up this morning after a short glow. Terrible ice in the midwest. Thought the view from inside of the hood ornament was kind of interesting so I took a picture. Without snowtires it is nearly undriveable.


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Old 01-14-2007, 01:40 PM
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Picture is great!

I hope we don't get any. I love that liquid sunshine as long as it will go directly down the drain. Hate to scrape, shovel and store it until sushine moves it out.
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Old 01-14-2007, 02:00 PM
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i heard we will get it tuesday.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7qDmuwCocA

Left chicago for dc in Feb. 91 in a blizzard. My 80 vw rabbit handled 12" snow with ease. Never had a vehicle like it. Now I'm 95 e300d 180,000.

I appreciate your plight. Excellent pic of the hood ornament. Good luck digging out.
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Ok, my rabbit probably didn't handle 12" all that well. As I reread the post, I see that Walagamuth is from Lafayette. During my trip from chi to dc, in 1991, I spent 6 hours sitting in a truck stop in Lafayette smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee with a couple of truckers who were torqued about the gps tracking systems in their trucks. Good old days. Sorry for lying about my rabbit.
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:52 PM
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OK, dumb guy from the sunbelt question:
This thing you call "snow tires"..... Is it the tread design, the rubber compound, or both....
Does everybody use them for the most part?
Nice ornament pic, btw....
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:20 PM
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snow tires

It's both actually Jimmy. The tires have soft compounds (blizzaks) or impregnated material to increase traction plus aggressive tread design. I think they still use studs (metal studs pushed into the rubber) in parts of the US. I probably should just buy chains but my Suburban does great in the snow and ice.

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Old 01-14-2007, 06:37 PM
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OK, dumb guy from the sunbelt question:
This thing you call "snow tires"..... Is it the tread design, the rubber compound, or both....
Does everybody use them for the most part?
Nice ornament pic, btw....
Usually they are called Mud and Snow (look for M+S on treadwall) and yes they are made out of a softer rubber, so they were a little more than others. Unless you live someplace where winter comes in with snow and doesn't leave for many months, tires with studs are a rarity. I would see them sometimes on cars in Lake Tahoe, but usually just having 4WD is enough.
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:42 PM
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Studded tires common up here in this area. Not unusual to hear the "hisssssss" of a car going by with studded winter tires. However, there is a certain time of year that these have to be off, usually April, or you could be fined for it (never heard of ANYONE getting a fine, mind you...).

Chains, on the other hand...the only people I can think of that use them are trucks that go on the logging roads to pick up logs. Often these are taken off at the road.
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Old 01-14-2007, 08:39 PM
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Yes both.

The rubber compound typically has some silicone or hydrophobic compound, cork has even been used in tires for snow and ice over the years, ... to make it stickier on ice etc Also usually softer compound as rubber compounds will usually be harder as they get colder.

Tread is another important item, however they vary depending on what they are designed to handle. An open aggressive tread like the classic snow tire is good for digging through and shedding the snow as it rolls, where sipes (small cuts in the tread) provide additional edges which are much more important for grip in snow. Many designs of snow tires, M&S tires (the most common, and most tires today are rated M&S which is pretty minimum), studless ice tires, and studded tires.

Many tires are designed to have great grip when new, but when the tires are at 50% good luck. Note the sipes on many tires that don't go down as deep as the tread, they disappear as the tire wears and the traction suffers. Ditto for tread compounds, sometimes the tire has a softer grippier compound at the surface and the rubber beneath it is much harder. Gives great traction ratings on the outer rubber and great wear ratings due to the harder rubber beneath. These tires can be great for one winter, lousy the next, we call it the "blizzak syndrome" around here.

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