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mgcanuck 01-28-2007 02:54 PM

nope, automatic..

truckinik 01-28-2007 03:15 PM

Cool! Who needs science?
 
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Originally Posted by cessna5354 (Post 1402594)
For two hundred bucks, Go for it.
Does it have a manual trans, If so do like I did years ago on a 240 w/Std Trans.
FIL blew out the oil pan plug by bottoming out ( bad shocks) siezed the engine. We towed it back, replaced pan, filled with kerosene, then towed it until about 30 mph popped clutch in third gear and the fourth time she was free.
Replaced oil and drove it about < 100K.
Not scientific, but it worked...

Pretty cool. I did that by hand cranking a lawn mower once, w/ spark plug off of it :cool: . Never thought it could ever be done with a car though. It took all I had, to crank a three horse, single cylinder engine. I'm surprised the rear wheels just didn't stay locked up on the car. Got a lot more years out of the lawn mower, too. The best part about all of it was that my father never even knew anything about it.:behead: ..lol, He still doesn't :laugh2:

John Holmes III 01-28-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by truckinik (Post 1402263)
I would just wheel and deal w/out touching anything. In fact, I would pretend it is much worse than it is. Tell them the tranny is wrecked, because the engine seizing and took it out with it. Lean under the hood and find all kinds of problems, pretend there's no hope at all for anything mechanical to be fixed, and act very confident in your tone when talking to them. Make sure you sound like you do this all the time and this is like one of the worst cases you've ever seen. Just to get them to lower the price. Let me come over there, and talk to them. I'll have them paying you to take it :greedy: . Once you get it home, play games and make attempts to get it going there. Don't make it seem easy to fix when you're looking at it though.


If it was my car and a potential buyer fed me a line of bs about the trans being ruined because the engine ran out of oil, I wouldn't sell him the car at any price. Arrogance and lying can only get you so far.


Cash talks, and bs walks.

JackG 01-28-2007 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John Holmes III (Post 1402633)
If it was my car and a potential buyer fed me a line of bs about the trans being ruined because the engine ran out of oil, I wouldn't sell him the car at any price. Arrogance and lying can only get you so far.


Cash talks, and bs walks.

I agree. Talk them down all you want, Pick the car apart, But fabricating problems is trouble. Would you want someone lying and taking advantage of your parents or grandparents like that? Do what you want, just my .02 worth

dot1 01-28-2007 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JackG (Post 1402659)
I agree. Talk them down all you want, Pick the car apart, But fabricating problems is trouble. Would you want someone lying and taking advantage of your parents or grandparents like that? Do what you want, just my .02 worth

I agree, bargain down but don't fabricate. It doesn't sound like you need to do much bargaining starting at $700, not much room to go down! :dizzy2:

mgcanuck 01-28-2007 07:38 PM

Agreed, dudes! Wasn't my idea to try and pull a fast one--someone else suggested making up that the transmission is failed by association. I just want a fair price. They are only asking $1200 to begin with, and acknowlege an engine swap/rebuild. I'm an honest negotiator.

mgcanuck 01-28-2007 07:46 PM

It's a moot point now. Someone else jumped on it....Doh!

Icefire 01-28-2007 07:52 PM

Dont sweat it, there will be other deals comming along, An engine swap is pretty time consuming anyway.

truckinik 01-28-2007 07:57 PM

I wasn't suggesting fabricating a problem. Simply stating that there's a probability of it having failed, and may need work as well. Any idea of what happens to the remainder of the driveline when an engine locks up ? The amount of stress put on the tranny, driveshaft,and rear end is not just a little jolt, and can be devastating to all of them. Ever see a driveshaft twist right off, or an input shaft on a tranny break ? You could drive around for months with a broken input shaft, or output shaft on a trans. I did it in my Chevy wrecker, and when it finally went totally, the tranny guy told me it was a very old break, and had been hanging on for a while. When an engine is stopped dead in it's tracks like that it CAN,and most of the time WILL take out other components with it. I'll bet two months from now if he puts a motor in the car today, he'll be looking for a trans here for sale on this site.

t walgamuth 01-28-2007 09:48 PM

many years ago i got a car with a "siezed" engine for parts. it turned out that the cam was siezed but not the bottom end.

we put that engine in my brothers car and he drove it for a good while.

tom w

henrydupont 01-28-2007 09:51 PM

no more than $200

winmutt 01-28-2007 10:05 PM

For future reference the AC compressor may have seized. Car probably wont start if it is.

jfman 01-28-2007 10:14 PM

Swapping a motor in one of these is very time consuming. I know people on here always talk about how easy it is to work on these cars but let me tell you first hand that this is a big job ! I'm sure the secound time aroun (knock on wood here) it wouldnt take as long but I have to say this was a lot more work than I tought.

I could have replaced the motor in at least 4 civics for the time I have in my engine swap. But of course I have lots of experience with thes hondas and they truly are very easy cars to work on.

I cannot imagine how bad it would be doing this in a rusty Canadian car.


Do you own a torch set ? :eek: I'n not joking, do you own one ?

John Holmes III 01-28-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by truckinik (Post 1402845)
I wasn't suggesting fabricating a problem. Simply stating that there's a probability of it having failed, and may need work as well. Any idea of what happens to the remainder of the driveline when an engine locks up ? The amount of stress put on the tranny, driveshaft,and rear end is not just a little jolt, and can be devastating to all of them. Ever see a driveshaft twist right off, or an input shaft on a tranny break ? You could drive around for months with a broken input shaft, or output shaft on a trans. I did it in my Chevy wrecker, and when it finally went totally, the tranny guy told me it was a very old break, and had been hanging on for a while. When an engine is stopped dead in it's tracks like that it CAN,and most of the time WILL take out other components with it. I'll bet two months from now if he puts a motor in the car today, he'll be looking for a trans here for sale on this site.

IMHO,

I have seen my share of locked up MB diesel motors in the last twenty or so years, and there has never been any drivetrain damage to any of them. With a automatic it's pretty hard to twist a driveshaft, or break the input shaft.

mgcanuck 01-28-2007 11:42 PM

Thanks for all the input, guys. I sure have learned a lot. I will be sure to consult you all on any future purchases!


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