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regsatx 02-03-2007 05:16 PM

Mobil 1 Turbodiesel in a Gas MB V8 OK??
 
Does anyone know if the Mobil 1 turbodiesel oil 5w40 is OK for a MB V8...560? I think it should be fine. It's not JUST for diesels...is it?

ForcedInduction 02-03-2007 05:32 PM

As long as it has the Sx rating for gas engines, it's fine.

Why not use one of the regular M1 oils?

Hatterasguy 02-03-2007 05:33 PM

No problem.

deerefanatic 02-04-2007 05:38 PM

It's expensive overkill, but hey, your money........

networkboy 02-05-2007 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1409021)
As long as it has the Sx rating for gas engines, it's fine.

Why not use one of the regular M1 oils?

Quote:

Originally Posted by deerefanatic (Post 1409812)
It's expensive overkill, but hey, your money........

I'm betting that service life in a gasser would be awesome!
Think about it: Better shear stability, better detergent, better particulate handling and suspension.
-nB

pdrayton 02-05-2007 07:35 AM

The Mobil website has a thingy where you select your car and it tells you the good better bestest oil for your car. If they list it there, you can bet it is OK.

Isn't mobil 1 synth the standard oil they put in all new MBs?

Hatterasguy 02-05-2007 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdrayton (Post 1410252)
Isn't mobil 1 synth the standard oil they put in all new MBs?

Yes, factory fill since 2001 I think.

Palangi 02-05-2007 10:36 PM

Oil made for diesels can have a lot of phosphorus in it. Not good for catalytic converters. As long as you aren't burning oil you will probably be all right, but it may not be the best oil for a gasser.

Knightrider966 02-05-2007 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regsatx (Post 1409004)
Does anyone know if the Mobil 1 turbodiesel oil 5w40 is OK for a MB V8...560? I think it should be fine. It's not JUST for diesels...is it?

You should be fine as long as your not burning oil. The friction modifiers in "C" rated oil for diesels can harm your catalytic convertor if you need rings and you use it all the time.;)

greasybenz 02-05-2007 11:43 PM

Reading posts over in the gasser section of the forum, alot of the guys are putting dino 15w40 in the gassers :eek: because of the detergents in the oil.

In my mind i dont see how that is ok, and thats why i have mobil 1 5w30 in the 420. They claim that the 15w40 is what MB recommends for their gassers:confused:

79300sdtd 02-05-2007 11:52 PM

in my gasser RX-7 i use 20W-50 in the summer and 10W-30 in the winter. it was 20W-50 all the time till i found out that the heavier oil killed my batteries during the cold cranking and the load on it.:behead:

H-townbenzoboy 02-06-2007 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greasybenz (Post 1411111)
Reading posts over in the gasser section of the forum, alot of the guys are putting dino 15w40 in the gassers :eek: because of the detergents in the oil.

In my mind i dont see how that is ok, and thats why i have mobil 1 5w30 in the 420. They claim that the 15w40 is what MB recommends for their gassers:confused:

Dino 15w-40 may meet the specs for their cars, as MB has approved a few 15W-40 oils for diesel and gasser use. However, your Mobil 1 5W-30 doesn't meet MB standards.
From this site http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html
Quote:

some oils which are not recommended:
Mobil 1 SuperSyn 0W-30 SL/SJ/CF A1/B1/A5 9.7 doesn't meet 229.1 nor ACEA A2 or A3
Mobil 1 SuperSyn 5W-30 SL/SJ/CF A1/B1/A5 9.8 doesn't meet 229.1 nor ACEA A2 or A3
Mobil 1 SuperSyn 10W-30 SL/SJ/CF A1/B1/A5 10.1 doesn't meet 229.1 nor ACEA A2 or A3
These 3 oils do not meet MB spec of > 3.5 cP for high temperature high shear strength.

Hatterasguy 02-06-2007 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greasybenz (Post 1411111)
Reading posts over in the gasser section of the forum, alot of the guys are putting dino 15w40 in the gassers :eek: because of the detergents in the oil.

In my mind i dont see how that is ok, and thats why i have mobil 1 5w30 in the 420. They claim that the 15w40 is what MB recommends for their gassers:confused:

I wouldn't run 5w30 in an M119. Mobil 1 0w40, or the factory fill which was 15w40 something or other. Don't run to heavy of an oil either or you will blow off the caps on the oil bridge's.

Mobil 1 5/10W30 doesn't meet any MB specs and should not be used in any Mercedes.

ForcedInduction 02-06-2007 10:59 PM

From http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Mobil_1_vs_Mobil_Delvac_1_for_a_Gasoline_Engine.aspx

Question:
Mobil 1 vs. Mobil Delvac 1® for a Gasoline Engine
I have read on the Internet that Mobil Delvac 1 oils may provide better performance in high-performance passenger-car engines than regular Mobil 1, since they meet CF-4 specs. What about using Delvac in gasoline engines, especially high-performance engines?
-- "Tribological", Richmond, VA

Answer:
Mobil 1 formulas will deliver everything you need for your gasoline engine. In fact, during development, tests are run in both gasoline and diesel engines to demonstrate the superior performance of Mobil 1. Mobil Delvac 1, which is designed for heavy-duty diesels, meets most diesel engine oil specifications, and also meets API SL certification. And because Delvac 1 operates in a different environment – diesel engines run longer, generate soot and run hotter, it contains different types and amounts of additives than Mobil 1. Even so, Delvac 1 still meets API SL certification for gasoline engines, and because of its high performance, we would expect it to do a good job of protecting your gasoline engine. If you use your gasoline vehicle in "heavy-duty" service, Delvac 1 will provide many benefits compared to conventional oils. When compared to Mobil 1 performance, those benefits may not be as obvious, and in fact, Mobil 1 would be expected to outperform Delvac 1 in many gasoline applications.

greasybenz 02-07-2007 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1411513)
I wouldn't run 5w30 in an M119. Mobil 1 0w40, or the factory fill which was 15w40 something or other. Don't run to heavy of an oil either or you will blow off the caps on the oil bridge's.

Mobil 1 5/10W30 doesn't meet any MB specs and should not be used in any Mercedes.

Hmm i thought for sure the bottle of 5w30 i bought said it was used in AMG mercedes. Im going downstairs to see if i still have the container. But i think a UOA will tell me what the ill effects the oil has had in the engine. Ill plan on having one done by the next oil change.

And no way will i run 15w40 in the M119, i think MB is nuts for putting that oil in the gasser. But thats just me. Some of the guys on the gasser section of the forum reported oil leaks with delo 400 15w40 because of its detergents.

So far the car doesnt drip a bit of oil and i dont want it dripping oil on the driveway as ive washed off all the diesel oil from the leaky SD that i had.


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