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I drove a 603 powered 87 SDL, and my 617 SDL felt faster, same body style, same weight, only mine had a taller rear gear.
Ill agree that both are great engines, Ill bet that the car with the highest mileage on this forum (diesel side) is not a 603, atleast not yet. The V-Belt system on the 617, is primative but reliable, can be jury rigged in an emergency, the serpentine on the 603, more modern, quieter more efficient, but you only have one belt... The aluminium head on the 60X series means that you must be religious about your maintence in regards to the cooling system, Both are excellent engines, both will last a very long time if well maintained, its all preferance really, some like the 603, some the 617, I personally love the old-tech nature of the 617. yes its loud, yes it clatters, but damit its beautiful in its simplicity.
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Thats alot of speculation, there are lots of 617s that have been well maintained all over the world, That are running around with very high miles. most 617s that I see that died did so because of owner error, like loosing oil pressure, I dont think that there is anything at all wrong with the bottom ends of the 617..
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Because he bought it in about 1985, and it was his primary car until 2000. He is fanitical about maintaince, and I know him well enough to know that every 3k miles or so that car went to the shop for an oil change. The original owner has a large trucking company, with in house mechanics.
The last 6 years are what probably got it, his kids had there way with that car. If it was neglected it was during that period, but the inside of the engine is pretty clean so... On the other hand my uncle knows a lawyer who bought a 1984 300SD new, and proceded to drive it about 35k miles without popping the hood then traded it in. 35k miles on the factory oil is pretty impressive!
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In any case, it's kinda going backwards. The 603 is in many ways a much nicer engine (I can say that 'cause I own one of each). Jeremy
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