The 300TD was the first turbodiesel W123 (one year earlier than the 300D). Also, my '84 federal 300TD has the same vacuum system as the '84 Calif / '85 Federal 300D (again, beating the federal 300D by one year).

So... yesterday I went to look at an '85 300TD. It had a trap oxidizer... the owner told me that _all_ 1985 wagons have the trap oxidizer. Is this true? I almost believe him as my '84 federal wagon has the same vacuum system / emissions as the '84 california car. Perhaps the same could be true for '85 federal wagons...

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1985 MBZ 300DT
1969 MBZ 220d
1984 MBZ 300TDT
1981 VW Vanagon

No. False. My 85 TD does not have and never did have a trap oxidizer. I believe only CA 85TD's had the privilege.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

The '85 Federal version W123 (617.952 motor) is the same as the '84 California. The '85 California version had the trap oxidizer, later replaced under a factory 'campaign' with a trap catalyst.

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"Buster" in the '95

Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970

Walk away from all 85 CA models unless you don't care about global warming and have a big fuel budget.

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green 85 300SD 200K miles "Das Schlepper Frog" With a OM603 TBO360 turbo ( To be intercooled someday )( Kalifornistani emissons )
white 79 300SD 200K'ish miles "Farfegnugen" (RIP - cracked crank)
desert storm primer 63 T-bird "The Undead" (long term hibernation)

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That's exactly what I did... more for the 'unknown' factor than anything else.

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1985 MBZ 300DT
1969 MBZ 220d
1984 MBZ 300TDT
1981 VW Vanagon

Bad experience with yours?

With very little work mine turned out to be a charming car.

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'85 300SD (formerly california emissions)
'08 Chevy Tahoe
'93 Ducati 900 SS
'79 Kawasaki KZ 650
'86 Kawasaki KX 250
'88 Kawasaki KDX200
'71 Hodaka Ace 100
'72 Triumph T100R

I'm in the process of federalizing mine similar to what you did. Then it will be a charming car. I'm still looking for a better solution to the $70 CA airfilter.

IMHO its not worth the trouble when you can just buy a federal version of the car or an 84 CA version.

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green 85 300SD 200K miles "Das Schlepper Frog" With a OM603 TBO360 turbo ( To be intercooled someday )( Kalifornistani emissons )
white 79 300SD 200K'ish miles "Farfegnugen" (RIP - cracked crank)
desert storm primer 63 T-bird "The Undead" (long term hibernation)

http://ecomodder.com/forum/fe-graphs/sig692a.png

Doesn't the CA 85 have a unique rear end ratio?

Sixto
93 300SD 3.0

If you are in a highly populated area where there are junkyards, then finding the correct parts shouldn't be a problem. If you can find a nice car to buy and have a little bit of mechanical experience don't let the CA version scare you.

The air filter thing sucks, but once properly tuned, my car ran OK with the old CA crap.

Yes, the rear end ratios are different. I think the tranny is different in some way also.

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'85 300SD (formerly california emissions)
'08 Chevy Tahoe
'93 Ducati 900 SS
'79 Kawasaki KZ 650
'86 Kawasaki KX 250
'88 Kawasaki KDX200
'71 Hodaka Ace 100
'72 Triumph T100R

I believe all 85 TD's have a 2.88 rear end ratio.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

And SD's

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'85 300SD (formerly california emissions)
'08 Chevy Tahoe
'93 Ducati 900 SS
'79 Kawasaki KZ 650
'86 Kawasaki KX 250
'88 Kawasaki KDX200
'71 Hodaka Ace 100
'72 Triumph T100R

My CA '85 is a fine car. I wish the fuel economy were better (about 21 around town, 24 on the road with B100 and 2 ounces of Redline 85+ per tankful) but "oh well." The air filter is more expensive but if you shop around you can buy one for about $40 and it's only once a year. The EGR and ARV don't seem to work -- I think there's something wrong with the vacuum lines.

According to the factory's "Model Year 1985" book, the rear axle ratio of all 1985 123.1 models was changed from 3.07:1 to 2.88:1 (gear ratio 46:15 changed to 59:17). [page 114]

Additionally, the California version (only) of the 1985 models 123.1 have a slightly different transmission, model 722.416 (W4A020), and a different torque converter with a higher stall speed, 2600 RPM, to improve "driving quality." The book says "Transmission 722.416 starts in 1st gear in all forward driving positions, and downshifts to 1st gear when coasting to a stop." [page 97]

Both specs (diff and trans) include the coupe (123.153), the sedan (123.133), and the wagon (123.193).

Jeremy

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"Buster" in the '95

Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970