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Old 02-20-2007, 10:14 PM
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Has anyone put a manual trans in a 300d or 300cd?

Has anyone put a manual trans in a 300d or 300cd?

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Old 02-20-2007, 10:54 PM
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i put a euro 300d (83) motor tranny and rear end into a 83 240d.

does that count?

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Old 02-20-2007, 10:57 PM
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Its pretty well documented on the fourm, it will keep you reading for hours,
Search for threads started by "RLeo"

or on manual tranny swap.
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Old 02-21-2007, 12:31 AM
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I've put an engine from a 300D into my 240D.

Plenty of these conversions running around the Denver/Boulder area.
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Old 02-21-2007, 12:47 AM
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manual trans. swap

I've put an engine from a 300SD into my 240D with auto trans. and then I put a manual trans. It works good for me I also put 5 speed trans into my 190D
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Old 02-21-2007, 12:50 AM
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Has anyone put a manual trans in a 300d or 300cd?
Geez, 110 posts and hadn't seen that subject yet?! Should also be well versed in the search function also.... We'll let it slide this time....
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Old 02-21-2007, 01:22 AM
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That's what I'm sayin'. Doesn't anyone search anymore?
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:38 AM
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Mercedes never mated the 617 turbo with a manual transmission, so unless you think you know better than Mercedes engineers, don't try it.

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Old 02-21-2007, 09:44 AM
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Mercedes never mated the 617 turbo with a manual transmission, so unless you think you know better than Mercedes engineers, don't try it.


You hear that Randy? I guess you need to pull the Getrag out of Marlene.....
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Old 02-21-2007, 10:44 AM
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Mercedes never mated the 617 turbo with a manual transmission, so unless you think you know better than Mercedes engineers, don't try it.

Absolutely. Connecting a Getrag 5-speed to the Mercedes-Benz™ turbo 617 engine has been connected to headache, diarrhea, gas, or constipation. If any of these effects persist or worsen, notify your doctor. Tell your doctor immediately if any of these serious side effects occur: rash, stomach/abdominal pain, back pain, unusual tiredness, dizziness, vomiting. Tell your doctor immediately if any of these unlikely but serious side effects occur: chest pain, dark urine, yellowing eyes or skin. An allergic reaction to this drug is unlikely, but seek immediate medical attention if it occurs. Symptoms of an allergic reaction include: rash, itching, swelling, trouble breathing. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your doctor or pharmacist. Your results may vary.

And, would those Mercedes engineers be the same ones Einsteins that designed that oh-so-magnificiently-engineered air cleaner support on the turbo 617?

In honesty, the 5-speed has a buzz in 2,3,& 4 that I cannot figure out...Henry Schumann recommends replacing motor mounts, rear subframe bushings and trying to come up with a W126 rear crossmember and mount which I will do (along with some other stuff) as soon as I get some inspiration. But, the 4-speed did the same thing in 2 & 3 so, it's probably not the Getrag.
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Old 02-21-2007, 10:57 AM
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I believe the buzz is a diesel thing. Some ford powerstroke trucks also buzz when the stock dual mass flywheel is replaced with a single mass, for reliability.

I'm liking the manual 5 speed idea, but I'm suprised at the number of arguments about whether it's even possible.
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:00 AM
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Absolutely. Connecting a Getrag 5-speed to the Mercedes-Benz™ turbo 617 engine has been connected to headache, diarrhea, gas, or constipation. If any of these effects persist or worsen, notify your doctor. Tell your doctor immediately if any of these serious side effects occur: rash, stomach/abdominal pain, back pain, unusual tiredness, dizziness, vomiting. Tell your doctor immediately if any of these unlikely but serious side effects occur: chest pain, dark urine, yellowing eyes or skin. An allergic reaction to this drug is unlikely, but seek immediate medical attention if it occurs. Symptoms of an allergic reaction include: rash, itching, swelling, trouble breathing. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your doctor or pharmacist. Your results may vary.
That's funny right there...I don't care who you are.
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:20 AM
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It's a serious buzz.

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I believe the buzz is a diesel thing.
My bride gets absolutely starry-eyed if I'm in 3rd gear any length of time.

I should charge admission.

And, I don't buy that it's a 'diesel' thing because the Huns have put manuals behind a lot of those diesels...a Euro 300D for example or a 240D. It's not the turbo either since the vibration is present with any kind of load (acceleration or deceleration).

I think it's something with the flex disks (another thing Henry pointed out that I need to change).

I'm going to peruse the Rooskie EPC site and try to determine if there's an alternate number for the 5-speed or manual's flex-disks.

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I'm liking the manual 5 speed idea, but I'm suprised at the number of arguments about whether it's even possible.
I KNOW it's possible. I just have to figure out the details.
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Old 02-21-2007, 11:22 AM
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My bride gets absolutely starry-eyed if I'm in 3rd gear any length of time.

I should charge admission.
I laughed so hard I barely kept from spewing my coffee. I hope you're here all week.....

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