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Old 02-28-2007, 12:36 AM
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85 300D turbo rattle in pass rear shock?

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A bit of a rattle / rumble coming from the rear pass shock area - I looked at lower control arm and drive shaft - seems to be really noticable when turning corners

Anyone come across this before?

Cheers thanks in advance

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82 300TD- diggin it
Ich habe Dinge gesehen, die ihr Menchen niemal glauben würdet
Gigantische Schiffe, die brannten, draußen vor der Schulter des Orion
Und ich habe C-beams gesehen, glizernd im Dunkel, nahe dem Thannhäuser-Tor
All diese Momente werden verloren sein....in der Zeit
so wie...Tränen im Regen

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Old 02-28-2007, 05:59 AM
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be sure to check top and bottom of both shiocks before replacing bushings...i once spent quite a lot of money doing some bushings on a 240 that turned out to have a loose shock.

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Old 02-28-2007, 10:42 AM
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Howdy T Walgamuth:

Cheers thanks

I only know of this rear suspension 300D from pulling the lower control arms - a pain to get the shocks out -
thanks for the advice;

Cheers
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82 300TD- diggin it
Ich habe Dinge gesehen, die ihr Menchen niemal glauben würdet
Gigantische Schiffe, die brannten, draußen vor der Schulter des Orion
Und ich habe C-beams gesehen, glizernd im Dunkel, nahe dem Thannhäuser-Tor
All diese Momente werden verloren sein....in der Zeit
so wie...Tränen im Regen
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:00 AM
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oh, how do you hear the turbo rattling from the rear shock? it must be way out of balance, or something... :-P
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1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

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howdy vstech :

never thunk it the turbo - did I mention turbo ?

cheers
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82 300TD- diggin it
Ich habe Dinge gesehen, die ihr Menchen niemal glauben würdet
Gigantische Schiffe, die brannten, draußen vor der Schulter des Orion
Und ich habe C-beams gesehen, glizernd im Dunkel, nahe dem Thannhäuser-Tor
All diese Momente werden verloren sein....in der Zeit
so wie...Tränen im Regen
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:14 AM
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howdy Folks:

A bit of a rattle / rumble coming from the rear pass shock area - I looked at lower control arm and drive shaft - seems to be really noticable when turning corners

Anyone come across this before?

Cheers thanks in advance
Check the link that goes from the rear hub to the sway bar. If your not sure what it looks like I'll post a picture. Another problem I had once was the shock broke. I'll try to find that picture as well.
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:24 AM
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try this link
http://schumanautomotive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2936&highlight=shock
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Old 02-28-2007, 12:38 PM
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howdy vstech :

never thunk it the turbo - did I mention turbo ?

cheers
from the title of the thread, it could be taken that the turbo is rattling the rear shocks.
I was just jibbing with you. tons of MB newbies call the turbo equipped 300D the 300D turbo, when ALL W123 300D models after 82 were turbo models.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 02-28-2007, 12:59 PM
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Howdy Surf.N.Turf;

Cheers thanks for the notes:

pretty sure is not the sway bar link - one of the things I check'd as well as the CV -all looks good there- jacked up both sides ( I find it easier to use 2 MB jacks / one each side - ( chocked front wheels both directions) no strange noise comming from diff or axle CV - drivers side jacked and pushed on drivers side to get a bit of wiggle on pass rear - nadda

All bushings look good- car is a southern Cali creampuff - spent last 5 years in Arizona since I owned - faded paint of course

only on ruff roads- and only in rear pass - even rode in rear pass side with a buddy driving to hear - Drive shaft moves fine as well- no indications of rot or binding - and exhaust is good - all mounts present and no cracking

I'll look into a new Boge rear shock - askin just in case I get in there and shock is fine -not that new shocks are such a bad thing

cheers thanks all:
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82 300TD- diggin it
Ich habe Dinge gesehen, die ihr Menchen niemal glauben würdet
Gigantische Schiffe, die brannten, draußen vor der Schulter des Orion
Und ich habe C-beams gesehen, glizernd im Dunkel, nahe dem Thannhäuser-Tor
All diese Momente werden verloren sein....in der Zeit
so wie...Tränen im Regen
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:13 PM
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quick thought popped into me head, while you are in there, look around in the wheelwell for a rock or similar causing a rattle. also, look inside the spring coil. a rock up there would rattle something fierce!
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:15 PM
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Howdy vstech:

D'oh ; i just got that - after seeing the title :

You got me there - slow .......

and yes - - 300d turbo is redundant after 82( I have heard it was 83/ - 84 model year - though I have heard many parts guys tell you with all the Mercedes Grey market imports - the 300D non turbo can be found on this side of the pond - with production dates to end of production- go figure .....

Interesting - I am still asked and chided by some parts suppliers when I ask for parts on my 82 300TD - as it is supposed to be known as 300TDT

cheers ya
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82 300TD- diggin it
Ich habe Dinge gesehen, die ihr Menchen niemal glauben würdet
Gigantische Schiffe, die brannten, draußen vor der Schulter des Orion
Und ich habe C-beams gesehen, glizernd im Dunkel, nahe dem Thannhäuser-Tor
All diese Momente werden verloren sein....in der Zeit
so wie...Tränen im Regen
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:23 PM
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Howdy again vstech:

Will look again to make sure - pulled off tyre and checked spring - thinking i am happy I made the group purchase of the coil spring compressor 4 years ago- its more of a deep rattle / clunk - really bad over rough pavement and hefty RR tracks - why I checked all bushings - and the one driving the car primarily is really a ginger'er

Did notice typical diff seal leaking - but from my experience ( had 5 w123's so far ) is typical for the age no?

cheers
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82 300TD- diggin it
Ich habe Dinge gesehen, die ihr Menchen niemal glauben würdet
Gigantische Schiffe, die brannten, draußen vor der Schulter des Orion
Und ich habe C-beams gesehen, glizernd im Dunkel, nahe dem Thannhäuser-Tor
All diese Momente werden verloren sein....in der Zeit
so wie...Tränen im Regen
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:33 PM
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another thing to check is the subframe bushings. I have heard they can cause quite a bit of heavy noise when crossing bumps and such.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 02-28-2007, 06:16 PM
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Howdy vstech:

now were cooking with gas

Right on cheers - that did not even cross my mind - and might as well replace as I can get the kit cheap enough - plus the one Boge just to be sure - as soon as I get into it i will reports back

Cheers ya

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Ich habe Dinge gesehen, die ihr Menchen niemal glauben würdet
Gigantische Schiffe, die brannten, draußen vor der Schulter des Orion
Und ich habe C-beams gesehen, glizernd im Dunkel, nahe dem Thannhäuser-Tor
All diese Momente werden verloren sein....in der Zeit
so wie...Tränen im Regen
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