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Old 04-06-2007, 07:44 AM
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evaluating engine after broken timing chain

I have just purchased a 1981 300D non turbo car, which will be come, hopefully my final most perfect Benz. My dream has always been a manual sunroof 240D and I currently have a very nice 240 D 4sp but with no sunroof. The 300D has a power sunroof but I can live with that or convert it. It any event, the 300D broke a timing chain, breaking the cam and some towers and putting a hole in the valve cover. I was originally planning on concerting to the 240D manual by transferring everything from my running car but I really want to get this thing on he road and I would like to test the auto tranny, which I would prefer as I have knee problems with a clutch. I can buy a used engine and install that for $1k with shipping and incidentals. I am thinking, however, of just replacing the chain, rails, tensioners, cam and towers, doing the head and seeing how it runs. I can evaluate the pistons for cracks when I pull the head. Thoughts? I am also tempted to use the 240 with the auto...how difficult a swap would that be? Speed is not an issue as it will cruise 70 with either setup.

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Old 04-06-2007, 08:28 AM
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IF it really busted the cam
I would strongly suppect major piston dammage
and then look for a rusted out but running parts car to pull a motor from
buying a complete rust bucket car is the cheaper eazyer way to do a swap
and you learn about the junker and get a pile of extra parts to sell
with a little luck you can get near break even on the deal
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:33 AM
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You need more information and opinions the second time around?

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=116265
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:40 AM
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when i had this happen the pistons were fine.

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Old 04-06-2007, 08:49 AM
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Tim

Yes Tim. I don't recall getting any feedback on using the 240 with the auto. Sorry if I wasted your time.
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:53 AM
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piston damage

I'm sure there will be divots in the pistons...I had these on a 240 when I broke a chain in that car. Is there a way to check the pistons for fine cracks without pulling the engine? Some sort of dye, coating them with oil, magnifying glass? I have rebuilt these engines before but I really, really do not want to pull the engine and tear into the bottom end.
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Old 04-06-2007, 10:38 AM
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You need more information and opinions the second time around?

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=116265
I remember reading that a couple years ago. Classic example of a thread without an ending.....
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The 3 engines I have repaired with similar damage ran fine after repairing the cylinder head.

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