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Old 04-25-2007, 07:41 AM
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Violent shake at idle

So another question about the 79 300 SD I'm getting... that thing has a SERIOUS shake at idle but when you give it just a little gas it smooths out. Anyone ever have this problem? I'm thinking motor mount but just wanted to get some thoughts.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:51 AM
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Motor mounts
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:53 AM
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IP damper bolt

There was an upgraded rack damper bolt to correct this problem. The one I have is gold anodized in color.

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There was an upgraded rack damper bolt to correct this problem. The one I have is gold anodized in color.

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The described problem does sound like an air leak vs. RD bolt, if constant. I cured an always flucuating idle, not violent shaking, by replacing the RD bolt. I have experienced said shaking in the CD and SD occasionally, and chalk that up to ULSD. Won't hurt to install new motor mounts.
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I'll try the motor mounts first. I really dont think its the valves. When I give it just a little throttle it is smooth as silk. Excuse my ignorance but what and where is the RD bolt, I want to check into it.
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I'll try the motor mounts first. I really dont think its the valves. When I give it just a little throttle it is smooth as silk. Excuse my ignorance but what and where is the RD bolt, I want to check into it.
Actually, valve adjustment is what I would check first. I'm not sure why you don't think it's valves unless you've actually checked. The problem is they tend to be too tight.

The rack dampner (RD) bolt is in the middle of the aft side of the IP. It's a bolt with a locking nut. (a weak rack dampner shows up as a rough idle while warm)

(BTW, just a little caution......refrain from using "gas" terminology such as "give it a little gas" or "throttle" as some will give you a little guff. We tend to enjoy "diesel" terms such as "fuel" and "accelerator".)
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I have a similar problem, so probably the fixes are the same as above. My '81 300D non-turbo has a rough acceleration. It idles smooth but the first part of acceleration (from 500 to 1000 RPM -just a guess b/c no tach) is rough. After about 1000 RPM it smooths right out. I thought it was my drive shaft because I know that needs balancing, but it is noticeable also while idling in park or neutral. I know a few of the valves are bit tight as I checked them the other day but did not adjust them (my mechanic is much quicker and equipped for that job). So, I'm thinking motor mounts or valves. Anything else worth checking?

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Old 06-30-2007, 09:51 PM
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The rack damper, I think is the correct name, fixed my shaking at idle. It was a PITA for me to get to it, but it is soooo much nicer now.

Was there a solution to the OP's problem?
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I had the same issues.

I replaced the usual suspects and nothing worked.

I removed the delivery valves and cleaned them and now idles very smooth.

Do not be too quick to replace your pump, check the delivery valves first if you already checked injectors, rack damper bolt, timing.

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Old 07-01-2007, 10:28 AM
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Replaced motor mount, all is well.
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:41 AM
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Good tip! Were the delivery valves very dirty? This is on your 617 motor? There are no o-rings in there? What is the procedure for cleaning the delivery valves, and the torque prcedure?

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I had the same issues.

I replaced the usual suspects and nothing worked.

I removed the delivery valves and cleaned them and now idles very smooth.

Do not be too quick to replace your pump, check the delivery valves first if you already checked injectors, rack damper bolt, timing.

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Old 07-01-2007, 11:30 AM
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I removed the delivery valves and cleaned them and now idles very smooth.

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The delivery valves?, You took things apart down in there and changed the copper seals? Were they leaking or the engine was just running rough?
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