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Old 05-13-2007, 10:54 PM
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euro wagon on ebay

No connection with seller. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/No-Reserve-85-Mercedes-300-TD-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Nice_W0QQitemZ220111537824QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Don't see these very often. Nice color. My quest continues for that special wagon.

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Old 05-14-2007, 04:07 AM
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it looks like an honest car.

but...

the sellers statement about the speedometer seems a little disingenious. i would assume it has MORE than the 250k shown not less.

the turbo motor is almost certainly not original.

it looks like the basis for an extensive project, not a prospect for good reliable transportation as is.

not worth much more than the desired opening bid imho.

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Old 05-14-2007, 04:28 AM
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Pretty rare for one of the gray market W123 wagons to come with headlight wipers on them. Some of those late model W123 euro cars came with very interesting options, such as rear seat crank windows, ABS, armrest delete, rear seat headrests and the like.

It'd be worth it for a real W123 diesel afficianado to fix up, if sold for a low initial price, and the body is accident and rust free.

Those W123 diesels (Especially the wagons) are relatively hot in the market these days, with the interest in biodiesel and alternative fuels so high.
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the turbo motor is almost certainly not original.

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I disagree. I recently bought an 84 euro wagon and it too is a turbo. The VIN gives it away. 123 19"3" indicates a turbo 617.952 engine.
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engine, mileage

I thought he meant the car is on its second engine. Also, I think the seller meant to say it says 250 kilometers on the speedo and he is guessing there are about 150,000 miles on it.
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:16 AM
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It's a nice wagon, but I always get nervous when the odometers stop and the Seller has to guestimate it's approximate. Normally, that guestimate weighs in the Seller's favor, for some odd reason.
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What's with the panel under the front bumper? Looks like it's bent downwards or something.
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What's with the panel under the front bumper? Looks like it's bent downwards or something.
Its the front valence. The US cars have the same piece, but you can't see them because the bumpers are larger.

It is missing the plastic vanes between the bumper and the valence though.
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a incorrect instrument cluster was installed because it does not have a Tach. just the old plain clock with a turbo engine is not correct. looks nice, just has lots of little but costly bugs that needs fixing.
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forget the cruise working. the tach is needed I believe. nice seats! wipers too! with the list of problems, I will be surprised if it goes above 2K.
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value of a 4 speed???

my pal just picked up a 1984 4 speed turbo euro wagon. its very clean, no rust, straight body, good paint, lots of records, ac works, and all manual controls.

any idea how much this thing is worth?
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Forget the cruise working, because its not there! It probably never was.

The seller admits that the instrument cluster was replaced. I own an 84 euro turbo wagon that never had a tach on the dash, but does have cruise control.

I keep trying to run the VIN the seller lists, but it won't come up.

Here are the VIN reports from my euro 84 turbo wagon and and US 85 turbo wagon (for comparison purposes). Note that they both list tempomat (cruise control) but only the US lists a revolution counter (tachometer).

IN WDB1231931F009835
Model 300 TD TURBO
Chassis 1231931F009835
Engine 617952 12 067158
Transmission 722315 02 440754
Order 0 3 240 01641
Approx. year 1983
Lights HELLA
Cab 04464
Dealer Ravensburg branch (240)
Interior tex-leather galaxy blue (152)
Paint
735 astral silver metallic (с 01.01.1972 по 31.12.1990, с 1994)
Options
411 mechanical and hydraulic sliding roof (с 01.10.1965 по 31.10.1993)
440 tempomat (cruise control) (с 01.09.1975)
466 central locking system (с 01.04.1970 по 31.10.1993)
533 interference suppression without radio set (с 01.01.1967 по 29.02.1984)
581 automatic climate control (с 01.01.1977)
591 heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane, (single-sheet safety glass), Germany
green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, single pane safety glass - Germany (с 01.01.1972)


VIN WDBAB93C8FF048911
Model 300 TD TURBO
Chassis 1231931F048911
Engine 617952 12 104305
Transmission 722315 02 627748
Order 0 5 705 40448
Approx. year not defined
Lights BOSCH
Cab 01636
Dealer United States (USA) (705)
Interior mb-tex java (154)
Paint
623 light ivory (T) (с 01.01.1972 по 1993)
54 Unknown code
Options
286 luggage nets on front seat backrests (с 01.01.1962)
411 mechanical and hydraulic sliding roof (с 01.10.1965 по 31.10.1993)
steel sliding roof (с 01.02.1963 по 30.09.1965)
440 bumpers with guards, front and rear (с 01.10.1970 по 30.04.1974)
bumper with horn and rubber buffer front and rear (с 01.03.1964 по 30.09.1970)
tempomat (cruise control) (с 01.09.1975)
451 revolution counter (с 01.12.1972 по 31.10.1993)
tachometer
power brake (с 01.01.1963 по 30.09.1963)
windshield (laminated glass) (с 01.01.1964 по 31.05.1972)
467 central locking system and instruments with english lettering (с 01.04.1970 по 31.10.1993)
461 + 462 + 463 (с 01.07.1968 по 31.08.1969)
491 USA version (с 01.01.1963)
519 Becker radio Grand Prix electronic cassette - USA (с 01.08.1980 по 30.11.1990)
Becker radio Grand Prix LW/MW/SW/USW - USA (с 01.01.1963 по 29.02.1972)
Becker radio Grand Prix stereo MW/USW - USA (с 01.10.1972 по 31.12.1976)
Becker radio Mexico Grand Prix, electronic (USA)
531 automatic antenna (с 01.01.1963)
546 lockable glove compartment and sun visors with vanity mirrors on the left and right, illuminated (с 01.03.1982)
halogen lamp unit, and seat adapter between the front seats
540 + 541 + 542 (с 01.01.1967 по 31.12.1972)
575 front folding armrest and right front seat with seat height adjustment
front folding armrest and headrest, left (с 01.04.1970)
571 + 574 (с 01.01.1963 по 29.02.1968)
588 Thermoking air conditioner and electric window lifters (front doors) (с 01.04.1970 по 31.12.1972)
automatic climate control and electric window lifters (front and rear doors) (с 01.01.1977)
593 headlamp flasher and turn signal lamps - italy (с 01.01.1963 по 31.07.1965)
headlamp flasher and turn signal lamps, front, crystal clear (с 01.08.1965 по 31.01.1967)
heat-insulating glass, rear window pane (с 01.02.1967 по 31.01.1971)
heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane (single-sheet safety glass), band filter
green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, single pane safety glass - tinted strip (с 01.01.1972)
639 radial-ply tires, elimination of warning triangle (с 01.11.1973 по 31.10.1974)
elimination of first-aid box and warning triangle (с 01.08.1977)
640 aluminium disc wheels with radial-ply tires (с 01.10.1969 по 31.12.1989)
tires with tube (с 01.01.1963 по 31.08.1965)
15-hole light alloy rims (с 01.01.1990)
673 high-capacity battery (с 01.01.1964)
722 baggage rack, integrated (с 01.07.1981)
732 birdseye maple wood trim, black (с 01.11.1993)
wood trim, Zebrano (с 01.09.1981 по 28.02.1986)
folding top fabric dark grey (979) (с 01.12.1960 по 29.02.1968)
805 Change of year of model, last figure shows new model year
843 rear seat bench divided 2/3 : 1/3 (с 01.10.1977 по 31.08.1996)
rubber mats on front floor, left and right (с 01.02.1963 по 31.10.1968)

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