I am not expecting many replies on this but for those of you lucky enough to have been around the 5 speed getrags, perhaps an answer may be available.

If the 4 speed manual were exchanged for a 5 speed, would the shift assembly need to be changed due to the different shift pattern and position of reverse?

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1977 6.9 3(A) - 84k

Yep, altogether different shifter, plus it wouldnt work cause theres only a four speed pattern on the shifter

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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"

Speaking of there is a wrecked euro 300d with a 5spd on ebay...... Blue one in DC. was listed on the "other forums"

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1995 E420 Schwarz
1995 E300 Weiss
#1987 300D Sturmmachine
#1991 300D Nearly Perfect
#1994 E320 Cabriolet
#1995 E320 Touring
#1985 300D Sedan
OBK #42

No way it would go to a valet. gRRRRRRR

So the trans, shifter, rods hydraulic lines everything else would have to be found even with an existing 4SP manual in place?

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1974 240D 3.0L 4(M) - 250K -OM617.910 + 300D FW + Rajay turbo power!
1977 6.9 3(A) - 84k

Not sure about the hydraulic line but add "drive shaft" too the list. Best too have the "doner' car. You cant buy the whole car?

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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"

Finding the whole car is tough. There is one one on ebay as winmutt mentioned but it is in WA and its on Ebay which makes it a PITA as it is.

All that for 2-3mpg more...

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1974 240D 3.0L 4(M) - 250K -OM617.910 + 300D FW + Rajay turbo power!
1977 6.9 3(A) - 84k

or 135mph top end...

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1995 E420 Schwarz
1995 E300 Weiss
#1987 300D Sturmmachine
#1991 300D Nearly Perfect
#1994 E320 Cabriolet
#1995 E320 Touring
#1985 300D Sedan
OBK #42

Do you have a link to it? I'm in WA.

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84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012

DC

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1995 E420 Schwarz
1995 E300 Weiss
#1987 300D Sturmmachine
#1991 300D Nearly Perfect
#1994 E320 Cabriolet
#1995 E320 Touring
#1985 300D Sedan
OBK #42

That seems somewhat optimistic with the stock motor. Perhaps with a OM603?

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1974 240D 3.0L 4(M) - 250K -OM617.910 + 300D FW + Rajay turbo power!
1977 6.9 3(A) - 84k

Oh, the other WA.

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84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012

The 82, 5 spd, 240D I found had been donated to the salvation army and bought by some guy for "cheap wheels" and he ran it further into the ground then put it on Auto Treader. It was an easy swap with both cars side by side. I sold it as a 4 spd and its still around town

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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"

The link would be good , I can't find it. I'm curious. I'd like to have 1 or 2 more gears in my 83 300SD, doesn't have to be manual, can be automatic, but it definitely needs at least 1 more gear. It's sluggish off the line and it revs to high at around 80. 1 more gear and possibly a rear end gear swap would make this car both more fun to drive and comfortable

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=017&viewitem=&item=270138096407&rd=1&rd=1

I agree with stevo. The hydraulic line should be the same. The additional gear will probably not increase the top end much if any...unless you add power to the engine somehow.

A very nice swap. In this case, I suspect a ds from an automatic equipped car might be about the right length.

We are in the process of swapping a four speed manual into my 82 300cd right now and it appears that the ds from a 240 automatic front half will be the right length for it.

Good luck.

Tom W

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