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tenmaz 07-31-2007 05:47 PM

87 300sdl 3.0 Tapping Noise
 
I hear a metal tapping noise dead center on top of engine. I opened oil fill cap but could not hear it any louder. The tap makes 7-8 taps seemingly in time with the engine, then stops briefly 1 maybe 2 seconds then taps 7-8. This pattern continues consistently. The cooling temperature is fine, and oil pressure is fine. However, I had just changed the oil and filter 3 days ago. Before this there had been no sound. 286k on motor it had been running great. I've been running 100miles at 70 getting 30/gal. Any tests or repair suggestions will be appreciated. You all have been a great help in the past thanks!!

tenmaz 07-31-2007 08:08 PM

so far no comments. Should I add some other details?

guage 07-31-2007 09:30 PM

Switch to Mobil 1 synthetic oil 15w40 15w50.

My 87 300SDL does it every once in a great while too.
I do not believe it's anything to worry about.

Hatterasguy 07-31-2007 10:07 PM

Its probably a lifter.

Brian Carlton 07-31-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1579307)
Its probably a lifter.

A lifter would not have a consistent repetitive pattern.

tenmaz 07-31-2007 10:49 PM

yeah. I thought I would hear it louder thru the oil fill opening too! I had tried to hold down any fuel lines or other potentially loose parts but none have solved the problem.

tenmaz 07-31-2007 11:09 PM

It's the end of the day for me guys. thanks for your input.

greasybenz 07-31-2007 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1579327)
A lifter would not have a consistent repetitive pattern.

strange the lifters on my W124 tend to tap in a pattern when i have a cold start, but eventually clear up within minutes.

Brian Carlton 07-31-2007 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greasybenz (Post 1579374)
strange the lifters on my W124 tend to tap in a pattern when i have a cold start, but eventually clear up within minutes.

What kind of pattern?

Dieseldoofus 07-31-2007 11:41 PM

Pull the valvecover and crank it over and see what happens (oil will go everywhere, be prepared).

Hatterasguy 07-31-2007 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1579327)
A lifter would not have a consistent repetitive pattern.

If you keep the rpm's constat they are consistant. But I may have forgotten I replaced mine years ago.

Rich300TDMBZ 08-01-2007 12:32 AM

Bad Injector?
 
My 87 300D had a "tapping" or nailing noise. Sometimes it is hard to differentiate the two. I eventually trace it to a bad injector. Replacing it solves the problem.

atif 08-01-2007 12:43 AM

My 92 300D 2.5 Turbo does it when I drive it hard, leaving for work in the morning its fine, 45 minute run on the highway and I get to work and it sounds like a sewing machines, have replaced all 10 lifters and done some oil treatment but no improvement. I have been using Quaker State 15w40 HDX fleet diesel oil.

Don't know what to do anymore, MB is recommending a valve job which is kind of a minor engine rebuild. The car has only 65000 miles!

If you changed the oil a few days ago, I think in your case its just bad oil that engine is not liking.

Good luck...

Atif

gsxr 08-01-2007 03:34 PM

Pretty likely to be a lifter. Try 15W-50 Mobil-1 for a couple thousand miles, if that doesn't help, test & replace the faulty lifter(s).

Atif, try the Mobil-1 on your car... with new lifters it should be quiet. No oil treatment of any kind should be needed. I've heard of more than one car that had the noise go away simply by switching to M-1. (15W-50. Did I mention 15W-50?)

:)

Brian Carlton 08-01-2007 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr (Post 1579931)
Pretty likely to be a lifter. Try 15W-50 Mobil-1 for a couple thousand miles, if that doesn't help, test & replace the faulty lifter(s).

Atif, try the Mobil-1 on your car... with new lifters it should be quiet. No oil treatment of any kind should be needed. I've heard of more than one car that had the noise go away simply by switching to M-1. (15W-50. Did I mention 15W-50?)

:)

The reason that I conclude that it cannot be a lifter is the pattern 7-8 taps in succession followed by a two second delay..........repetitive.

Sorry, but a lifter cannot be that brilliant.

I'm more inclined to think something on the chain is hitting a stationary object in some fashion.

This would be even more convincing if the "lifter noise" was apparent all the time........never went away under any operating condition.........as lifter noise will typically do.


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