The tensile strength of a M12 bolt varies by approx 500% depending on property class (grade.) Depending on the class, 96 ft/lbs is not terribly out of line for that size bolt.

Was that an M12 that failed at 96 ft.-lb?

Must have been quite a low grade bolt...........

I am just trying to point out to use judgment and not follow blindly. I am not trying to bash the hapless fellow who broke the bolt. If I were him I would be upset too.

And I am defending the haynes books which seem to get bashed around here frequently. In my experience they are very good for most things. I do own fsm for several engines though. But for most of the things that I do I can find what I need a lot faster in the haynes book.

Tom W

I took it to be that bolt, but it's not exactly crystal clear. I may have misunderstood; probably should have used more common sense.

I certainly agree with that. I have never understood why Haynes gets slammed so often.

I didn't think it was M12.......??

That's a huge cap screw.........

The 617.95 manual says that the larger bolt (frame to engine bearer) is M12, smaller two (mount to frame) are M8.

But I'm not sure if I should believe that or just use common sense instead!!!

That's a beefy screw for that location. I'm still surprised it failed at 95 ft-lb. As you noted, must be a grade 3 or less.

That's what I was referring to.