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Help troubleshoot an intermittent tach.
Hi All -
I'm new here. Just picked up an 82 300td w/ 172,000 miles a couple of months ago. I've spent a lot of time researching these vehicles over the past year or so, and wasn't able to find a nice wagon until recently. Anywho, everything works on the car as it should, except the tach which I know rarely work on these models at this age. The tach works only when the A/C is running. A mechanic couldn't think of why such a thing would happen, though he didn't look at anything. I'm wondering if any of you have seen this, and/or able to point me in a direction. Thanks for any help. |
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I would look at the ground connections
Take a look at the ground connections for the instrument cluster. Maybe when the AC is on, the tach circuit can find a ground.
Also try the tach amplifier fix... unscrew the amplifier and pull the circuit board out of the cover. put a flat cigarette butt or similar thing into the cap and then put the board back. This usually works.
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Thanks. I'll check the ground first.
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Other than a ground issue, the only other common thing I know of is the #14 fuse, it powers both the tach and the monovalve. You might want to take a look and see if it has a crack or a poor contact. I would try running a ground wire from the dash and see if that helps too. Very strange.
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After replacing the fuse, I honked the horn (without the engine running), and the tachometer went to 2,000ish rpms. I thought that was weird. |
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Definitely sounds like a ground issue to me... Does the clock work? What about the temperature gauge? if it is bouncy that is another symptom of a ground problem
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I agree, try adding a ground wire from the back of the tack to a ground point under the dash.
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Next time when the tach does not work, try banging the dash above the tach and see it it brings it alive. If so, it may be due to a "sticky tach movement"
See post #80 in this thread for more info: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=189424&page=2 Quote:
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The clock and all other gauages work properly. Nothing is bouncy.
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I would still try the ground wire, and double check the fuse. It could also be an internal problem with the tack or the tach amp, but it sure sounds like a grounding issue to me.
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Take a DVM and set it to the A/C millivolt scale and measure the output of the tach amp (I do not have the pinouts at the moment but I'll post later). With the engine idling, you should read 100 to 200 millivolts at idle and it should increase as you rev the engine. If you get no reading, the tach amp or the mag pickup or the wiring in between may have problems, or it may not be getting power. Next, set the DVM to the ohms scale and read the pickup resistance which should be around 80 ohms (I'll post pinout later)
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You do not need to be an electrician. Owning one of these cars does require certian "goto" tools. Mity vac and Digital Volt Meter are two.
What Funola is saying is a very easy test. A multi function meter will have the capability to do the test he is talking about.
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funola, still post pinout points, please.
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