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Old 08-16-2007, 02:45 PM
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'82 300TD will not shift "manually", stuck in first.

I have an 82' 300TD with transmission issues. So far, this is what I have done:
1. Checked the vacuum lines. Everything is fine (had to plug the one running to the climate control, to be worked on later).
2. Disconnected the kickdown switch under the accelerator pedal.
3. Adjusted the modulator valve

Everything was running adequately (don't want to say well), shifting properly, though sometimes hard and sometimes with a little flare. However, there was an odd problem: it took almost exactly 1.5 miles before the car would shift into second, then it would shift normally. Oddly enough, this had nothing to do with the amount of time the car was running. If I was stuck in traffic, caught all the lights, fiddled around in the car after starting it, etc., the car would still wait about 1.5 miles before shifting into second. I don't think it has anything to do with warming the car up, since it's 100+ degrees here.

Now it will not shift out of first at all. I tried to shift manually, but that does not work either. In L, S or D, I am in first gear. Yes, reverse works fine, and I can shift through the gears easily.

A friend suggested a stuck valve, but did not elaborate.

Any suggestions? I really need some help here, as my husband is making those "you really should get a reliable car" noises again. Soon he will move on to "I told you so", and I can't have that.


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Old 08-16-2007, 03:16 PM
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Now it will not shift out of first at all. I tried to shift manually, but that does not work either.
"Manually" upshifting is not what it seems. All that it does is permit automatic upshifting.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:30 PM
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Make sure the fluid level is good, or better, do a replacement, with filter. Check Vacuum Control Valve, you'll need a mity-vac, or something similar. Then adjust the Bowden cable if so equipped. I think the stuck valve you mentioned is an internal thing. Good luck.
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Old 08-18-2007, 09:26 PM
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Spent the day trying to troubleshoot this without much success. Fluid level is fine, vacuum is perfect, Bowden cable does nothing, good or bad (I even disconnected it without any changes). So, I have two more questions for y'all:

1. Is the governor the same as the modulator valve? If not, where is the governor? [If you could send a photo or a link to one, that would be ever so helpful.]

2. Assuming that the governor isn't stuck, I'm going to drop a new transmission in this car. I already have a donor vehicle, so finding a a good transmission is not a problem. Does anyone have any recommendations/warnings? Is there anything that should be done to the donor transmission (other than a thorough inspection and cleaning)?

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Old 08-18-2007, 10:32 PM
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The trans gets its signal to shift via vacuum and throttle position.

Sounds like it has a vacuum problem if it was shifting (reasonably) well before.

Any other vacuum problems? Do doors lock. Do they stay locked? Anything recent work where something might have gotten knocked off?

Mileage on trans?
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:40 PM
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Some people have had success with TransX. It's probably worth a shot.
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:55 PM
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The trans gets 2 signals. One from the modulator which is throttle position. The other is the governor which is road speed. If the governor is stuck the trans will not see any road speed and not upshift. It will think it isnt moving.
I dont have a pic of where the governor is but it's on the rear most part of the trans on the right side I think. It is probably stuck with grit from worn clutches and thrust washers. Pull this valve out and clean it. I'lll bet the trans will shift just fine.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:46 AM
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There was some vacuum problem, but it was being slowly but surely fixed. The doors do hold a lock. I can even lock and unlock them many times in the morning.

There's about 240K miles on the trans.

I'm going to try looking at the governor and will report back.
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Old 08-19-2007, 10:22 AM
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There was some vacuum problem, but it was being slowly but surely fixed.
Vacuum, or lack thereof, is not your problem.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:31 PM
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The trans gets 2 signals. One from the modulator which is throttle position. The other is the governor which is road speed. If the governor is stuck the trans will not see any road speed and not upshift. It will think it isnt moving.
I dont have a pic of where the governor is but it's on the rear most part of the trans on the right side I think. It is probably stuck with grit from worn clutches and thrust washers. Pull this valve out and clean it. I'lll bet the trans will shift just fine.

........one from the Bowden cable which is throttle position............


The modulator will only "modulate" the speed of the shift.........not the point where it occurs.

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