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Old 11-18-2007, 02:38 PM
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removing an engine....no wheels.

Okay, here's a difficult situation possibly, need some experiences of others.

I have a parts car parked on grass across the alley from my garage, on axle stands - no wheels. The alley is unpaved, and slopes towards the parts car and away from the garage - upwards slope towards garage. There is a ditch behind the 300sd parts car, so it can't go back any further - just barely fits in there.

I'd like to pull the engine, but I remember seeing that you are not supposed to move the shop crane once you have the engine up. You are supposed to roll the car back first. Again, no wheels, no room.

So how do I pull the engine from this car with the shop crane sitting on unpaved ground, on a slight downslope towards the car?

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Old 11-18-2007, 02:45 PM
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I have moved engines on cranes many times. The worst is a Ford 460 in an old F150; the engine is very heavy and must be raised very high. It's not mine, but I've helped remove and reinstall that engine three or four times so far.

The unpaved surface is your worst enemy. Perhaps you can lay down some lumber to support the hoist.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
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Put the engine crane on a sheet of 3/4 plywood and you can pull it away from the car with a come-along attached to another car or with rope and a Z drag system or just pull it back slowly with a car.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:54 PM
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Could be a problem

Dunl, I think I would build an inexpensive trackway using 2 x 10 treated lumber. Then once you have the engine out and high enough start bringing it back and across the alley. I would do this with a "come a Long" properly attached to a post, pole or the trailer hitch of a vehicle placed in the proper place. Move it slow and have a helper to keep it on its track. Move it slow and easy, with the engine quite low and you will do OK. Four lengths of lumber should do the job as you can bring them back up front after or as you advance.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:33 PM
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Cut the radiator supports and what not!
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:46 PM
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Ahh I've run into the gravel driveway pulling parts thing too many times. The advantage of having a ranch though, is that tractors (usually found on ranches) are indeed quite handy in a multitude of situations and purposes.

I think I've used it to lift more engines and drag around projects than I have for working around here...

Perhaps you could find a way to secure the lift in a truck bed with the boom hanging over the back and use a longer chain, or make a hand winch hoist out of pipe that would fit into a stake hole?
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:01 AM
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I'd move the car to an open area, and barrow my uncles John Deer back hoe. As for moving the parts car, you don't need wheels..I'd chain that SOB to the back hoe and drag it right out of their.
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Cut the car away from the engine. Like peeling a banana.

I did this with a VW Golf, to get to the diesel engine, using a Dewalt cordless recip saw.

Small pieces will fit in the trash bin.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:01 AM
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Moving the engine crane with the engine on a slope would worry me. I would look for a friend with a fork life or a tractor to pick it.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:11 AM
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When we moved our lathe into the basement (weighs as much as four or five 617s I'd bet) - we used the John Deere with a front end loader. We now own a Bobcat and might do it that way. We took the loader bucket off the loader and just used the framework of the loader (without any attachments). Chained it to that, lifted up, backed it very carefully off the truck, lowered it very carefully down towards the ground, and just eased the tractor into the basement.

If you know somebody with a front-end loader, just remove the bucket (so you have just a metal frame to attach to, chain it up, and move slowly.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:13 AM
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You might get away with laying down planks or plywood and using a winch come-along to drag it up the hill, but I'd use that as a last resort for fear of things turning over, getting crooked, falling apart... etc.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:58 PM
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Use plywood and a come along only to go far enough to put the engine in the back of a pick up truck, move the truck then use the crane again to unload the truck and push the recipient car under the crane.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:25 PM
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So how about if you don't want to slice and dice the rad support? How do you get your engine out of a daily driver?
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:32 PM
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So how about if you don't want to slice and dice the rad support? How do you get your engine out of a daily driver?
Daily driver with no wheels?
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:05 PM
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So how about if you don't want to slice and dice the rad support? How do you get your engine out of a daily driver?
lift it high.

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