Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-15-2007, 05:33 PM
VWGuru&BenzFan's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 221
Does the 190D get no love?

I very rarely see people on this board who have a 190D or much less are asking questions about them. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but it seems that the 190D isn't as desired as the W123, W126, or even its similar era W124 brethren.

I realize the the 190D is relatively rare, but is it any less rare than a W124 or W126 (603 powered) diesel?

Would a 190D stick shift be like a more modern 240D 4-speed, only quieter and more updated? I can imagine the ultra rare 190D 2.5 Turbo would be a rocket.

Is there something I should know?



Check out the fuel prices in the shot above













__________________
2003 Volkswagen Jetta Wolfsburg Edition, "Tiffany," - Black/Black Cloth - 75K miles, Jetta #6; my faithful, turbocharged, BBS-adorned sled

SOLD 3/08 1981 Mercedes Benz 300D, "Elise" - Astral Silver/Black M.B. Tex - 217K miles - I miss her everyday; the best-built car I've owned
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-15-2007, 05:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,263
I think it's just that there aren't that many of them. But perhaps they never break.

The back seat is a bit small for my taste, but I don't sit back there.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-15-2007, 05:45 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 81
I have a 1984 190D 2.2 with a 5 speed manual. Fun little car. It's in my garage now because it needs some work - the clutch that engages the fan stopped working.

You are right, the 190D is rarely talked about on the site. Guess very few people own them.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-15-2007, 05:45 PM
TheDon's Avatar
Ghost of Diesels Past
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,285
I almost had a 190D 2.5 turbo... almost.. I really like those little cars

but compared to the W123 and W126 it has inferior build quality

also the forum 190revolution.net has a big following among w201 owners
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-15-2007, 05:49 PM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,632
I like them, but I disagree that the quality is suspect. They were built to be the entry level benz, so the trim is simpler. Most of the mechanical parts are the same as the 124 and even the 126.

Tom W
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-15-2007, 05:50 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: daytona bch.
Posts: 28
I have a 190d-'87, my first MB, love it. has 172145 mi., runs great. 35mpg, only a few things need att'n.--my posts don't get many answers. haven't found a good service manual yet(tried CD & HAYNES). even the orig. radio works! jerry , in Daytona Bch.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-15-2007, 05:53 PM
babymog's Avatar
Loose Cannon - No Balls
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northeast Indiana
Posts: 10,765
The 190D is newer, and designed with less maintenance, so less need for help here IMO.

It is much more modern and more of a crisp handling car than the traditional Mercedes 123, my 190D turbo seemed faster than my 300D 603 cars, just more nimble I think.

The 2.5l engine makes the car pretty quick and quiet for a diesel, the turbo even better. Fuel mileage is better than anything else M-B ever made I believe, and so quiet.

Plenty of love here, just that most people on this forum seem to be here for older models. The 124 is beginning to make some pretty frequent appearances here now, but also not nearly as many as the older bodies.
__________________

Gone to the dark side

- Jeff
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-15-2007, 05:53 PM
bustedbenz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Valle Crucis, NC
Posts: 2,283
I guess the simple trim and tiny size combined are the reason I never looked at them very hard. There's no attraction to me for owning a car that small. Other than that, AFAIK they're good machines.
__________________


~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-15-2007, 06:15 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,423
My 87 190d is a true diesel benz ,its clocked over 250k and still a strong car.Im lucky to own a bevy of beauties, the 300d is great on long trips ,300cd all around car,and the 190d city driving seems to suit the car well.My objective is to have a wagon in the future ,just cant find any thats worth the price.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-15-2007, 07:05 PM
JimmyL's Avatar
Rogue T Intolerant!!!
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sunnyvale, Texas (DFW)
Posts: 9,675
I would love a little 190D, but none were really available back when I used to have extra $. I drove an '87 turbo, and even with only 1st and 3rd gear it was a little rocket. I believe somebody here on the forum bought that one. And certainly handled better than any W123!
That back seat is a bit small, but rarely are any of mine utilized. At least China has the Becker 612 out of one of them......
__________________
Jimmy L.
'05 Acura TL 6MT
2001 ML430 My Spare

Gone:
'95 E300 188K "Batmobile" Texas Unfriendly Black
'85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White
'80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed
'81 300TD 240K "Smash"
'80 240D 230K "The Squash"
'81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-15-2007, 07:13 PM
Palangi's Avatar
L' Résistance
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Republique de Banana
Posts: 3,496
201 was the entry level Benz at the time. Consequently a lot of them fell into the hands of people who didn't know how to take care of them, or couldn't afford to take care of them. The result was, not many of them survived. The current C Class seems kinda the same way. A pretty good car that tends to fall victim to mediocre owners.
__________________
Palangi

2004 C240 Wagon 203.261 Baby Benz
2008 ML320 CDI Highway Cruiser
2006 Toyota Prius, Saving the Planet @ 48 mpg
2000 F-150, Destroying the Planet @ 20 mpg



TRUMP .......... WHITEHOUSE
HILLARY .........JAILHOUSE
BERNIE .......... NUTHOUSE
0BAMA .......... OUTHOUSE
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-15-2007, 07:15 PM
lietuviai's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SW WA
Posts: 5,744
This could be a turbo 2.5.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/510126760.html
__________________
DJ


84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-15-2007, 07:16 PM
Hatterasguy's Avatar
Zero
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Milford, CT
Posts: 19,318
I'd pick one up for a winter car next year if one came along. I like them, but they are kind of small and their interior leaves much to be desired.
__________________
1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-15-2007, 07:21 PM
lietuviai's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SW WA
Posts: 5,744
They remind of mini 124's.
__________________
DJ


84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-15-2007, 07:22 PM
JimmyL's Avatar
Rogue T Intolerant!!!
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sunnyvale, Texas (DFW)
Posts: 9,675
Quote:
Originally Posted by lietuviai View Post
No it can't. One year only, and that was '87.....
That would be a good deal with a rebuilt tranny. They never go much over 200K with the original tranny.

__________________
Jimmy L.
'05 Acura TL 6MT
2001 ML430 My Spare

Gone:
'95 E300 188K "Batmobile" Texas Unfriendly Black
'85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White
'80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed
'81 300TD 240K "Smash"
'80 240D 230K "The Squash"
'81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page