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Old 12-16-2007, 02:48 AM
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clutch M/C air bleeding, (From m/b manual Brillaint!)

A friend named rolf sent me the manual to the mercedes benz manual gearbox and all the how-to's on it. like bleeding the clutch Master cylinder, Brilliant is mercedes for making the clutch and brakes go into a central reservoir.http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Cervan/untitled-1.jpg

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Old 12-16-2007, 10:21 AM
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I have reverse-bled clutches many times. The clutch lines are usually larger than brake lines, making it very hard to force bubbles down. But they go up very easily when you reverse-bleed.

However, I've never done it by using the brakes. Rather, I forced fluid in from a bottle of brake fluid with a hose inserted to the bottom. It would be easy to adapt a standard pressure bleeder to do this.

You must ensure that you don't overflow the master cylinder reservoir when you do this.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:35 AM
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It works

but make sure you tighten the bleeder screws at caliper and slave before touching that clutch pedal. Otherwise you'll blow off the hose connected at the slave and bathe the undersurface of the car and the garage floor with brake fluid. Experience is a wonderful teacher.

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Old 12-16-2007, 10:51 AM
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Bleeding the clutch using the r/f brake caliper is really easy IF you use tiny hose clamps on the two different size nipples. Just hook up the hose, open both bleeders, pump like crazy, close bleeders, done, not a big deal.
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Old 12-16-2007, 12:26 PM
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You mean there are cars with separate reservoirs? Other than old Brit cars? Maybe I've had too many German cars to realize what the rest of the world is doing.
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Old 12-16-2007, 03:42 PM
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it just never occured to me! you could pump the brakes to reverse flush the clutch -doh- Yeah, my dads toyota has a seperate resivoir and the last nissan i looked at too.
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:20 PM
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You mean there are cars with separate reservoirs? Other than old Brit cars? Maybe I've had too many German cars to realize what the rest of the world is doing.
My Honda had separates.
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but make sure you tighten the bleeder screws at caliper and slave before touching that clutch pedal. Otherwise you'll blow off the hose connected at the slave and bathe the undersurface of the car and the garage floor with brake fluid. Experience is a wonderful teacher.

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Pipe clamps my friend will do wonders.
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My '74 SAAB also had separate reservoirs. All the later year SAABs that I owned had one.
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how

how do you address the fact that once the bleeded valve at the brake caliber is opened the threads have lost thier seal and air can be drawn into the system?
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Good question, Larry. I don't address it, as I've always used an external fluid source.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:13 PM
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brake flushing

the first time i flushed brake systemi noticed a lot of bubbles draining into my container thru a clear hose,determined that the threads was leaking air in.
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how do you address the fact that once the bleeded valve at the brake caliber is opened the threads have lost thier seal and air can be drawn into the system?
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Not a problem, honest The car is up on stands so I kneel beside the car and pump the brake pedal with my hand quite a few times, crawl under close both nipples and check to see if theres "clutch" yet, if no, do it again.

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