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01-02-2008, 04:48 PM
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617 into a W124 Wagon.
Well, the motor has bit the dust in my wagon, and instead of installing another gas motor, I was thinking of converting it to a diesel....
I got two crazy diesel friends who say I should do it... We got an extra motor too... Should I?
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01-02-2008, 04:52 PM
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Id do it, ive seen it done as well but i dont think the 617 bolts up to the transmission.
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01-02-2008, 05:11 PM
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We got an extra trannie too.
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic.
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01-02-2008, 05:12 PM
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What happened?!
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01-02-2008, 05:15 PM
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Two valves are burnt in cylinder 6.
Its got low compression on cylinder 6, and the piston is burnt.
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic.
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01-02-2008, 05:21 PM
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No way to make the rear suspension work with a 617 unless you rig up an electric pump or the 617 was from a 300TD.
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01-02-2008, 05:42 PM
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Conventional Suspension.
I never carry a load. SLS doesnt matter to me. It works perfect, but I never use it. I have pictures of a conventional suspension W124 Wagon.
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic.
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01-02-2008, 05:43 PM
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Plus, my power steering pump is tandem. I think its possible to jerry rig it.
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic.
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01-02-2008, 05:48 PM
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I know of a T88 Turbo and an M Pump.
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic.
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01-02-2008, 05:50 PM
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Why not just stick a 603 in? Its alot easier to find a 5 speed for it
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01-02-2008, 06:03 PM
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The 617 is indestructible.
Not to mention, it is super reliable, and parts are plentiful.
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic.
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01-02-2008, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
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01-02-2008, 07:47 PM
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Hmm. I don't know, but I would think the 617 would have issues with the low gear rear end... OTOH, several 617 owners have put in 2.47:1 rears before... as spunky as that car is with a gas motor, or a 603, I would think a 617 would be pretty pathetic... comparatively... sounds good to me though. I like my 617's... kinda want a 603 though.
I bet you would have little issues rigging the tandem pump up to work.
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01-02-2008, 07:54 PM
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Thats why I am going to convert it to conventional if I do a diesel swap.
It will be fairly quick I would imagine. M Pump and Fat Turbo.
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic.
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01-02-2008, 08:47 PM
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You're in California. I wouldn't. I think you need to buy a true diesel w124.
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